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Old 03-18-2011, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by theianmcdougall
they will be fine, ajusting isnt hard on an alignment rack

make sure your put on the spacers and grind down those bump stops a little for moar angle
Gotcha. I'll make sure to remind the shop to do that. Thanks!
Old 03-19-2011, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WhosRich
Question about the tein tie rods. Is there anything I should tell the shop to do in regards to alignment? As long as they count the threads I should be able to obtain the added steering angle right?
Originally Posted by theianmcdougall
they will be fine, ajusting isnt hard on an alignment rack

make sure your put on the spacers and grind down those bump stops a little for moar angle
count the threads?????

after installing tein tie rods with the spacer over the inner tie rod threads, resulting in spacer between steering rack and inner rods........

you will hands down need an alignment, no way around it....

as for alignment, use factory alignment specs or whatever you wish...

Ians right, grind down the steering stops about half way.....

READ post 1 and 2...

-J
Old 03-19-2011, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
count the threads?????

after installing tein tie rods with the spacer over the inner tie rod threads, resulting in spacer between steering rack and inner rods........

you will hands down need an alignment, no way around it....

as for alignment, use factory alignment specs or whatever you wish...

Ians right, grind down the steering stops about half way.....

READ post 1 and 2...

-J
No, I know I'll need an alignment after the install. I dunno where I read something about counting the threads but it popped up in a thread when I was searching.

I did read the posts about the tie rods. Very well written. I'll let everyone know how it went. Thanks.
Old 03-21-2011, 06:26 AM
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jason, i dont have a z, but im just scoping around for one lol
but can you drift in a base? haha since its open diff and only one wheel spins lol

i just read your statement, "THE Z DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING TO DRIFT."
but does it at least have to have a lsd? lol
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Originally Posted by asianskater91
jason, i dont have a z, but im just scoping around for one lol
but can you drift in a base? haha since its open diff and only one wheel spins lol

i just read your statement, "THE Z DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING TO DRIFT."
but does it at least have to have a lsd? lol
you can drift a base but open diff makes the car very unpredictable and that makes it a lot harder.

it depends on how much you want to get into drifting and depending on how much you want to spend

1. buy stock oem vlsd (which quite frankly sucks) they drift 10x better than open tho, cost a few hundred dollars

2. weld yo sh*t (f it, its cheap and works 100%) but most people dont like to daily fully locked diff, cost less than 100

3. buy a real diff, either 1.5 or 2 way (2 way is pretty much an expensive welded that can hold more powa) this will cost you alot 1000+
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great response ian...


-J
Old 03-23-2011, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by theianmcdougall
you can drift a base but open diff makes the car very unpredictable and that makes it a lot harder.

it depends on how much you want to get into drifting and depending on how much you want to spend

1. buy stock oem vlsd (which quite frankly sucks) they drift 10x better than open tho, cost a few hundred dollars

2. weld yo sh*t (f it, its cheap and works 100%) but most people dont like to daily fully locked diff, cost less than 100

3. buy a real diff, either 1.5 or 2 way (2 way is pretty much an expensive welded that can hold more powa) this will cost you alot 1000+
oh i see i see, thanks dude!
i was thinking about maybe a quaife since there like 1000
but idk, and why is it bad to drive with a fully locked diff?

sorry i never had a rwd car, only a ford ranger when i was 16 haha
but yeah
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^^ I drift a welded diff but when that sucker goes out I'm going all out on a 2 way... Here as you can see not a lot of folks like welded diffs cause they DO brake. Luckily i am one of a few that it hasn't given up on yet but it doesn't mean it won't. I say if you can't afford to buy a decent lsd at the moment and understand the negatives of driving daily on a welded diff do it but remember you will later down the road want to get a 1.5 or 2 way

BTW i finally got around doing my tie rods and damn, what a difference. Haven't gotten the z sideways yet since it still needs a fine tune but as soon as i get the chance too im going sideways lol...
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Originally Posted by asianskater91
oh i see i see, thanks dude!
i was thinking about maybe a quaife since there like 1000
but idk, and why is it bad to drive with a fully locked diff?

sorry i never had a rwd car, only a ford ranger when i was 16 haha
but yeah
pretty much if you stay n/a and really want to start drifting just weld it.
the only reason ppl dont like it is because it breaks loose very easily in the rain and it hops/shakes on sharp turns.

but ^ manny here needs a better one since hes got some nice twins now
Old 03-24-2011, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by litoflow
^^ I drift a welded diff but when that sucker goes out I'm going all out on a 2 way... Here as you can see not a lot of folks like welded diffs cause they DO brake. Luckily i am one of a few that it hasn't given up on yet but it doesn't mean it won't. I say if you can't afford to buy a decent lsd at the moment and understand the negatives of driving daily on a welded diff do it but remember you will later down the road want to get a 1.5 or 2 way

BTW i finally got around doing my tie rods and damn, what a difference. Haven't gotten the z sideways yet since it still needs a fine tune but as soon as i get the chance too im going sideways lol...
oh i see i see, yeah i might just get a lsd but idk, i think it will be more just a daily lol
Originally Posted by theianmcdougall
pretty much if you stay n/a and really want to start drifting just weld it.
the only reason ppl dont like it is because it breaks loose very easily in the rain and it hops/shakes on sharp turns.

but ^ manny here needs a better one since hes got some nice twins now
yeah im not gonna do much to my car, just lower and wheels and some exhaust stuff lol
and oh is that why there is like 60% and 100% lock? lol
Old 03-24-2011, 12:24 PM
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ats is a good LSD for drift?
i got vlsd with MT 6.
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So I got my tein inner and outer tie rods installed today. My mechanic told me that he didnt have to trim the bumpstop because the steering wheel wouldnt even reach it. I checked it out and he's right, the steering wheel locks before it even touches it.

What gives? I drive a G35 Coupe and not a 350z btw.
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if u don't cut the stops the steering wheel CAN'T give u more steering angle
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Originally Posted by stein350z
if u don't cut the stops the steering wheel CAN'T give u more steering angle
The striker plate doesnt even touch the bumpstops when the wheel is turned all the way.

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Originally Posted by theianmcdougall
^ manny here needs a better one since hes got some nice twins now
That is right my friend. Also i need bigger tires for the street, this thing is mean and i am only at 5psi i cant wait to see what 10 will do..
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Originally Posted by WhosRich
The striker plate doesnt even touch the bumpstops when the wheel is turned all the way.
i don't know...
Old 03-28-2011, 01:51 PM
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I gotta ask if the mechanic installed the spacing nuts. Doesnt make sense.
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Originally Posted by WhosRich
I gotta ask if the mechanic installed the spacing nuts. Doesnt make sense.
ya, check yourself, pull back the steering rack boot and check yourself...

-J
Old 03-28-2011, 09:58 PM
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This thread is so informative and inspiring... When I log onto my350z I learn things more performance oriented as opposed to driver. Thanks Jason for creating a, perhaps, goal changing thread as to what I want to do with my car in the future.
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lol.......cool...where in TX are you located??

ya i actually feel, i really need to update this thread a bit more..........some great peeps helping me through it as well......so this thread is going well..

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