Notices
Engine & Drivetrain VQ Power and Delivery

Quaife LSD ... finally available!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:37 PM
  #1  
THX723's Avatar
THX723
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Thumbs up Quaife LSD ... finally available!

Just recieved official words the long awaited Quaife LSD for 350Z/G35 is finally released and ready to be shipped. Suggested Retail price is $1495 (no surprise here).

It is a straight drop-in affair for those with the stock OPEN differential. Yes, unorthodox ... but that is what Quaife UK went with. Those with the vLSD diff. will also need the stub axles for the open diff. in order to make this work. However, this may actually work out nicely with the following scenario:

1. Look for someone with an open diff. and do a pumpkin swap w. them.
2. They get a free upgrade from open to oem vLSD (yours) and you get their open diff that readily accepts the Quaife LSD.
3. Both parties are happy!!!

Since I'm not in the business of selling ... those interested may want to contact Sharif (Sharif@Forged), who's an authorized Quaife dealer, for purchase info.

I'm looking to drop one in soon.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:34 PM
  #2  
BriGuyMax's Avatar
BriGuyMax
Turbo Whore
Premier Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,303
Likes: 1
From: West suburbs of Chi-town
Default

good to hear...price is quite steep...but this is to be expected. I don't know why they went with an open diff drop in as a vast majority of Z's out there have the VLSD rear diffs but whatever. Glad they finally released it.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:46 PM
  #3  
sagi's Avatar
sagi
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

think you could get a groupbuy going?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:52 PM
  #4  
Sharif@Forged's Avatar
Sharif@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Performance
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 13,733
Likes: 1
From: Marietta, GA
Default

A group-buy is a definate possibility. I would like to know how much interest there would be, and if the people interested are the open diff folks, or the VLSD folks.

Unfortuanely, Quaife's pricing structure provides VERY little margin, so I am not sure how much of a discount I can offer.

However, if we get several people interested, I can negotiate with them for better pricing for everyone. Lets see where this goes.

Quaife LSD SERIOUS Group-Buy list only:

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:11 PM
  #5  
dklau33's Avatar
dklau33
Registered User
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 516
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area
Default

Quaife LSD SERIOUS Group-Buy list only:

1) dklau33 (Darren) VLSD
2)
3)
4)
5)
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:18 PM
  #6  
onyx350z's Avatar
onyx350z
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL.
Default

If anyone is interested I have an open dif off my base Z that I am willing to sell. I already did the pumpkin swap to the Viscous, so no trades on that. PM me if interested.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:34 PM
  #7  
DBZCat's Avatar
DBZCat
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 1
From: Kansas City (Olathe, KS)
Default

what exactly do I need since I have a base model. What do I need to swap out with someone? I'm not familiar with LSD and all that at all.... all i know is that I have a base and don't have one!!!

also, what is the loud clicking people keep talking about with the aftermarket lsd, will this be very noisy under normal driving conditions?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:46 PM
  #8  
THX723's Avatar
THX723
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default

DBZCat,
I'm getting some conflicting info from the e-mails w. Quaife. I will reconfirm with Quaife on what exactly is needed for both OPEN and vLSD folks tomorrow. Stay tuned.

Last edited by THX723; Jul 19, 2005 at 03:57 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:05 PM
  #9  
dklau33's Avatar
dklau33
Registered User
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 516
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area
Default

DBZ... the Quaife doesn't make those clicking or popping sounds like a cltuch type lsd does at low speeds. The Quaife is a Torsen type lsd and is quiet and seamless in operation when it kicks in.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:18 PM
  #10  
imoz's Avatar
imoz
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 215
Likes: 1
From: PA, USA
Default

Is there any performance advantage of a Quaife style LSD as opposed to the other LSDs available (like the ATS and of course the Nismo, Cusco, et.al.)?

In another thread it was mentioned that a potential disadvantage of this style of LSD is that when a wheel lifts it becomes like an open diff and sends power to that wheel. Are there any advantages other than quieter operation and smoother engagement? Since the price point is similar to the ATS I'm wondering if there are any significant advantages to be aware of.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:24 PM
  #11  
THX723's Avatar
THX723
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default

Originally Posted by imoz
Is there any performance advantage of a Quaife style LSD as opposed to the other LSDs available (like the ATS and of course the Nismo, Cusco, et.al.)?

In another thread it was mentioned that a potential disadvantage of this style of LSD is that when a wheel lifts it becomes like an open diff and sends power to that wheel. Are there any advantages other than quieter operation and smoother engagement? Since the price point is similar to the ATS I'm wondering if there are any significant advantages to be aware of.
The advantages of the gear-type Quaife LSD vs. clutch-type LSD (Cusco, Nismo, Kaaz, ATS, etc.) are as follows:
1. Infinite variability makes for seemless LSD engament.
2. No (clutch pack) noises at any points of operation.
3. No inside tire lock-up (chirping) while attempting tight turns.
4. Virtually maintenance free (no more than your stock unit).

The disadvantages are:
1. Lost of torque transfer when one wheel lifts.

Realistically ... unless you are involved in the most competitive road racing (or Formula-D style drifting), this is not of a major concern. Even there, there are plenty profession race cars that uses Quaife differential. It is a compromising situation.

Hope that helps.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 06:52 PM
  #12  
bullseye's Avatar
bullseye
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: tennessee
Default

I'm sure the answer to this question is obvious, but I'm completely awestruck.

I think I understood you to say this new Quaife ATB Differential will be a simple drop-in swap for the stock open diff on my 2003 5AT G35s. Did I understand you correctly, or is it only wishful thinking on my part?

I had one of these on my '95 Maxima SE 5MT, and it was superb. I'd love to have one of these installed. Please tell me I'm in business! Thank you.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:17 PM
  #13  
Z BOY's Avatar
Z BOY
Registered User
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,264
Likes: 1
From: CA
Default

i like my quaife slippery!
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:21 PM
  #14  
DBZCat's Avatar
DBZCat
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 1
From: Kansas City (Olathe, KS)
Default

I will be awaiting info about the exact items needed THX723. Thanks for finding out all this information, interested in the group buy but want to know what all I need and how much $$$ it is going to cost. I've spent alot this past month
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:15 PM
  #15  
THX723's Avatar
THX723
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default

Originally Posted by DBZCat
I will be awaiting info about the exact items needed THX723. Thanks for finding out all this information, interested in the group buy but want to know what all I need and how much $$$ it is going to cost. I've spent alot this past month
These are the words I recieved (however, everyone should note I do not hold responsibilities for any msinformations ).

For the OPEN differential group:
The Quiafe LSD will indeed drop right in.

For the vLSD differential group:
2 stub axles (left & right) will need to be replaced with the models for the open differential.

For OPEN and vLSD group:
This may also be a good time to inspect the inner axle bearing, race and seal. Replace if necessary. It is sometime possible to damage those while removing the stub axles.

I'm not sure how much the stub axles go for ... I believe somewhere around $250 at the dealer (for both)???

... hope that clears it up for yall.

Last edited by THX723; Jul 20, 2005 at 12:18 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:16 PM
  #16  
THX723's Avatar
THX723
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: So Cal
Default

Originally Posted by bullseye
I'm sure the answer to this question is obvious, but I'm completely awestruck.

I think I understood you to say this new Quaife ATB Differential will be a simple drop-in swap for the stock open diff on my 2003 5AT G35s. Did I understand you correctly, or is it only wishful thinking on my part?

I had one of these on my '95 Maxima SE 5MT, and it was superb. I'd love to have one of these installed. Please tell me I'm in business! Thank you.
Bullseye,
In short ... yes, ya lucky bastard. Buy one and it drops right in!
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:18 PM
  #17  
Brandon@Forged's Avatar
Brandon@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Internals.com
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,566
Likes: 1
From: Valdosta, GA
Default

Bad move by Quaife to do it for open differentials. Only one model is open differential, did they really think that that would be the majority of the market? And adding on costs for buying the stub axles to an already expensive LSD was also a downside IMO. (granted, it's expensive for good reason)
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:32 PM
  #18  
Sharif@Forged's Avatar
Sharif@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Performance
iTrader: (92)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 13,733
Likes: 1
From: Marietta, GA
Default

THX is correct....if you have an open diff, its a direct drop in swap. Keep in mind that when changing diffs, you should buy a two new bearings/races, and two oil seals. The bearings are pressed into the diff, and will likely be damaged if you try to remove them.

You will need these parts, regardelss of what diff you choose.

The Quaife is a couple hunderd bucks more than the ATS, and as THX mentioned, gear driven diffs are seamless, they dont actually "lock" like traditional LSD design.

The ATS Carbon is, IMHO, one of the best traditional diffs on the market, and its engagement is very smooth. But with the Quaife, you wont feel it at all.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:37 PM
  #19  
dklau33's Avatar
dklau33
Registered User
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 516
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area
Default

Sharif, do you know about how much it would cost to get all the extra parts for us VLSD guys? Stub axles, bearings, races, and seals. Sounds like this is approaching the $2,000 mark just for parts.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 04:32 PM
  #20  
Smokie's Avatar
Smokie
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Northeast PA
Default

Open diff, im interested in swapping it for the stock vlsd to those considering the quaife. Email me at Onur.Kalar@gmail.com if you are interested.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:17 AM.