Because of all this Supercharger and Turbo talk, I would like to do a poll to see just where everyone is headed in the future.

No doubt a Twin-Turbo Setup has the most potential for HP gains. But I myself would be more inclined to settle for a modest increase that a Supercharger would provide. Also I imagine the SC setup would cost a bit less, but again less HP gain.

Please make your Choice on Modification:

Stock - I like it just the way it is.

Nitrous - Cheap HP.

Supercharger - Modest HP Gain for the money.

Twin-Turbo - I'm All About the HP. Where's the credit card?



Troy49er

 

what about N20 and a Twin Turbo?

 

you also forgot a modded N/A setup

TT all the way

 

You are right.. A lot of people may go the NA modded route.
Might should have added another item or 2.

Mostly I was interested in the SC vs. TT results, as that seems to be the main debate. So far the voting has been pretty close between those 2 options.

 

I will be going the TT route.......

 

Nitrous is ok but it can get expensive too when you do it right.

I would want a direct port kit, window switch, bottle warmer, and purge. That is more than the basic setup provides.

It's also $3.59 a lb here too so a 10lb bottle is almost 40 bucks to fill and will give you one night at the races, even with the warmer the pressure drops too.

Having gone the NOS 5177 Kit once I can honestly say I would rather have something that is always available instead of refill, run-out refill etc.

 

Coming from someone with a Jackson Racing Supercharger PIC in his SIG.....
Do you got that on your Hondah civic...?

 

I'm a fan of SC because your engine will last longer, no lag, and it's more fuel efficient.

 

ahh...this is the worst thing i've heard in the whole thread....
You can set the boost that you want your turbo to run at. Why would it make your engine last longer? Maybe b/c it makes more heat?

 

Supercharger is definately more reliable than turbo (engine wise)
that is as far as add on hp!!!!

Nos isnt that bad as long as it isnt a big shot and you know what your doing.

 

I find it very interesting how people make statements of absolutes when discussing reliability and FI.

Those that believe one is more reliable than the other, where do you get your information? Is it from controlled, scientific studies? Or did you hear that one was better than the other? Or did someone trying to sell you a SC (or Turbo) told you that Turbos (or SCs) damage engines? Or do you have personal experience?

There are examples of both types of add-on FI being done with high reliability. It's all in the design and implementation. A poorly designed kit is more likely to have reliability issues.

Will you get the same mileage you would out of your car stock, this is almost impossible to say?

Back on topic-

I would prefer a turbo setup (single or twin) just because of my own personal preferences. I would love for someone to make a kit using TT Aerodyne turbos, the best of both worlds (full boost at low RPMs and variable boost.) Alas, that is unlikely.

JD

 

DONT DRAGRACE YOUR Z33

NA and superchargers are the only way to produce predictable power. in the nature of a turbo, it will spool up when ever you get enough exhaust pressure. BUT WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT IS? your exhaust pressure is unpredictable. that means you just might be hitting that nice third gear turn, downshifting, floor that mother and then wait. wheres your power?? give it more gas? whoops! there it is! meet the lawn.

now on the other hand. Turbo is great, Nos is great. but only on freeways and dragstrips. honestly was your car made for that? maybe the freeways, but there is a reason why Nissan built the z33 NA with sweet aluminum suspension, carbon fiber driveshaft, and a sic six-speed. ROADRACE fellas.

 

 

I think what people are trying to say is that the supercharger itself will last longer than the turbo itself due to the fact that a turbo charger gets really hot and everything in the turbo(especially the bearings) are subject to allot of thermal stresses. That will cause it to fail sooner than a supercharger.

 

some people roadrace turbo cars because they are either of your mentality, that MORE IS BETTER ALWAYS NO MATTER WHAT, or because the regulations and competition of a certian class of racing has come to the level in which that HP is needed.

dont be an idiot and think that JGTC teams use turbos becaue it makes their cars more reliable, predictable and better cars. JGTC cars use turbo because they need to go faster, because everyone else is going faster.

There is a reason why Ferrari, Honda, BMW, and anyother racing force doesnt use turbo unless they have to. there is a reason why Formula one is not turbo anymore. TURBOS CREATE AN UNPREDICTABLE POWERBAND. you can ignore it all you want. call me an idiot, but i know what im talking about.

go build your 1000hp twin turbo z33. i dont care. ill be happy with my 500hp NA one.

 

well that's just...umm....wrong. SCs generate just as much heat as turbo's, arguably moreso.

 

While the turbo days of F1 have hence past, I think some people are forgetting there is a whole open wheeled series of cars with turbos. ...... IRL...Oh wait, thats right WRC cars are turbo too. Hmmm. I think a lot of you need to realize that a turbo powerband isn't unpredictable. I mean, aside from the rare boost spike your not going to be surprised everytime you step on it. It doesn't turn your car into a big cracker jack box, you won't find a new powerband everytime. The power won't be linear, and it will come on higher up, but it will always do that. Doesn't mean its undpredictable. Some of you need to get your facts straight.

 

Also, I want to know how you plan on building a 500hp N/A vq35de. That would be interesting. You also seem to forget that if you add a TT setup to a car it doesn't suddenly lose all the power that it had before. Aside from a small increase in backpressure you don't lose power. So the same power that was there coming out of your 3rd gear turn or whatever you said would still be there as a stock N/A. You also make it seem like people want to throw a single t-88 turbo on the 350z. Thats not what people are talking about doing. Most people would want two medium to small, quick spooling turbos.