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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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New AAM Spec Oil Pan Spacer kit

This new item is fresh out of testing. We found some things lacking with other similar options on the market. Specifically the overall fit and finish. Also tapping an unconventional shape can be a bear, even for a machine shop. This is a great upgrade for NA cars, FI cars, or cars that may be upgrading to FI in the future. We will be releasing stainless steel line kits in the next few weeks that will allow direct -AN connection for the following kits:

Greddy:
Dual -10 AN Stainless Lines that connect to the Greddy provided return tubes

We have found on our shop car and on customer’s cars that the banjo fittings that Greddy provides tend to leak. Also the banjo style fittings have relatively small holes for drainage.

Vortech and Turbonetics Owners:
Single Pre-terminated -10 AN Stainless Line that will directly connect from the Turbo/Supercharger to the Spacer

We don't like the idea of having to tap the factory upper pan so this is a great solution. This will also allow the car to be returned to stock with much less hassle. Also if the turbo or supercharger needs to be removed for service then the spacer can be capped off. The fitting included with the Turbonetics kit are very hard and if overtightened can crack or strip the upper pan. The Vortech includes nice fittings but they can also be a source of leaks. Because the material in that area is a little thin we are always concerned with over tightening the fitting and stripping it out.

Small note on thread and fitting styles. The Vortech and Turbonetics use NPT (National Pipe Taper) out of the box, which is considered a "deforming" thread style. This is also called a tapered thread. This type of thread design can only be used so many times before the threads deform so badly they are unusable. At this point a larger thread size must be used.

AN style fittings use an equal thread. The sealing occurs between the nose of the male fitting and the nose of the female fitting, not through the threads themselves. A 37deg. surface around the circumference of the nose provides a seal that is tested to the many thousands of PSI. This type of thread can be used many times before wearing out. The sealing surface of the nose can only be damaged by contaminants like sand or dirt.



Dual pre-taps for 3/4"-16
Allows -10AN Line and JIC/UNF Fittings to be used*
- No Leak Connection
- Easy Access and Disconnect
- No need to tap your upper pan with the Turbonetics or Vortech kits (makes converting back to stock much easier)
*Must use AAM adaptor to have true -10 internal bore

Pre-tapped for 1/8" NPT
Allows any 1/8" NPT Threaded Component to come in contact with oil
- Easy, secure, and removable connection of both Metric (Greddy, Apex'i, Defi) and Standard (Autometer) Temperature sensors to be installed

1" Spacer for Pan and Pickup
Increases oil capacity
- Runs Cooler Temps
- More oil is able to take on more contaminants before becoming ineffective in lubricating

Billet 6061 Cut on a Haas VF-4 CNC Mill
Able to cut with very tight tolerances - to the .001 of an inch!
- Guaranteed to fit properly, bolt up properly, and no chance of leaking if installed properly









We'll be starting a group buy in the next few days.

Retail on the spacer kit is $149

The line kits will be sold separately and will range from $49 to $119. The spacer kit by itself includes plugs for the Dual Taps and the NPT Sensor Tap.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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just curious as to how much extra oil this would hold, thanks
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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One Quart Extra!
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Stupid question number 1: does this lower the oil pan enough that it now becomes endanger from the "fine" roads here my tax dollars don't go to pay for?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Stupid question number 1: does this lower the oil pan enough that it now becomes endanger from the "fine" roads here my tax dollars don't go to pay for?
Lol...I don't want to hear anything about crap roads...we're right outside of DC (contruction heaven)

It does place the pan slightly lower, but in my personal opinion it is not a huge risk. The pan is still above the bottom of the engine support crossmember. I have not heard of anyone reporting issues with the JWT spacer either.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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there is no way that 1" or so they added is going to get the pan close to the ground, i definatly wouldnt worry about that.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamic6er
Lol...I don't want to hear anything about crap roads...we're right outside of DC (contruction heaven)

It does place the pan slightly lower, but in my personal opinion it is not a huge risk. The pan is still above the bottom of the engine support crossmember. I have not heard of anyone reporting issues with the JWT spacer either.
Yep I have the JWT one, and it is in no reasonable danger... Also very nice product, so nice that I am upset that you guys didn't make this before I got my Turbonetics kit installed

Cause this would have been a great option, and is to those considering or about to boost.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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I have been considering getting one of these vs. a complete pan and my biggest reservations have been that these introduce and additional gasket where the oil could leak as well as a spot where the pickup tube could lose suction. The leak I can deal with (maybe), losing oil pressure I can't. Comments?

Also, the "other" spacer is a little less expensive. Why is yours higher? Is it the pre-tapped/plugged ports?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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I've had the JWT spacer on for quite a while now, (thanks phunk!) and with Permatex gray gasket goop, I've not had ANY issues!!!!

This new spacer looks similar, but with added tapped holes for additional fittings. Nice work!
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EnthuZ
I've had the JWT spacer on for quite a while now, (thanks phunk!) and with Permatex gray gasket goop, I've not had ANY issues!!!!

This new spacer looks similar, but with added tapped holes for additional fittings. Nice work!
Yeah with sealent/gasket maker it is sealed... Just make sure to be moderate in your use.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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Nice product, decent price. Ill def be picking one up to make my future Turbonetics install easier.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by teh215
I have been considering getting one of these vs. a complete pan and my biggest reservations have been that these introduce and additional gasket where the oil could leak as well as a spot where the pickup tube could lose suction. The leak I can deal with (maybe), losing oil pressure I can't. Comments?

Also, the "other" spacer is a little less expensive. Why is yours higher? Is it the pre-tapped/plugged ports?
Nissan uses RTV on all of these surfaces. The flanges are very wide so for a hole or leak to appear is difficult. These are also low or no pressure areas so the seal is just meant to deal with surface in perfections. Just as the suction pipes on a turbo are unlikely to leak if installed with no hose clamps, the same idea applies here. This is becasue the suction action is unable to create the forces that a pressure pipe creates.

Price.
Yes our spacer is more expensive. Much more expensive. 50% more. But this is what we offer.

The pretapped holes that are difficult to replicate on the JWT and which will cost you more to do after the fact then the $50 extra we charge.

The CNC machine can cut with the precision of a human hair. The JWT is a cast unit that we found to be completely lacking in overall quality. The holes were not aligned properly, the gasket surfaces were very rough and finished with a poor choice of machinery or with a dull tool. The burrs have been removed by hand! There were gouge marks all over the part.

Our unit will fit, will bolt up and follow the factory casting extremely closely. Alex our machinest is from a NASA/Aerospace backround. This means this part will be 100%.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Peking
...I am upset that you guys didn't make this before I got my Turbonetics kit installed .
Yeah...

I have already tapped my upper factory oil pan. How would I re-seal it if I want to get the AAM one and use the pre-drilled holes?

Oh, and please post the group buy link in this post when its on...I dont want to miss it.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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you could always just get a pipe threaded plug for whatever pipe threads that fitting is... however, even if you get this cool spacer, you might as well just leave your oil return as it currently is. There would be no benefit to changing it. Just use the spacer for its benefits in the oil capacity, longer oil quality maintenance, and it should reduce oil temps an itty bit.

I have a front mounted oil cooler which already brings down temps and increases capacity quite a bit... however I believe there is another benefit of this spacer for us all.

If we increase the overall sump capacity (with the AAM spacer) and lower the oil pickup, and then we put in an entire quart more oil... we have now created a larger oil catch basin. During hard acceleration, deceleration, and even turning... there will always be an oil level by the pickup that is precisely as much deeper than stock as the AAM spacer is thick. This means HIGHLY reduced risk of oil pickup starvation causing a pressure drop, and no need for an expensive aftermarket lower pan with baffles.

:thumbsup: good product.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatmitzu
Yeah...

I have already tapped my upper factory oil pan. How would I re-seal it if I want to get the AAM one and use the pre-drilled holes?

Oh, and please post the group buy link in this post when its on...I dont want to miss it.
Like Phunk said, an NPT plug will do it for you. Let me know if you would like us to supply it or you can use mscdirect.com and http://www.mcmaster.com/. You will need a 3/8" NPT Plug.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
:thumbsup: good product.
Thanks phunk! We appreciate it. I think we will be working on an oil cooler kit as well in the near future. Do you run a thermostat for your system or is it a Nismo?
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Mocal has a thermostatic oil filter spacer that fits the threads we have. its very inexpensive but i cant remember how much. I prefer the thermostats in the spacer because its more self contained then an external thermostat. i thought about making a kit myself when i got all the stuff, but i decided against it. There are just too many ways to set it up per application... you have to decide if its appropriate to keep the stock oil/water exchanger or remove it for less pressure drop (2 coolers will cause greater oil flow resistence), and then there is the question of where exactly to put the cooler itself... everyone has different radiators and intercoolers...

I decided not to mess with it myself, but if you got some ideas for it then by all means, a good clean kit could be a popular item.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamic6er
Like Phunk said, an NPT plug will do it for you. Let me know if you would like us to supply it or you can use mscdirect.com and http://www.mcmaster.com/. You will need a 3/8" NPT Plug.
Hmmm, if you guys supplied the NPT plug that would be really cool for those of us who already tapped the upper oil pan or just ordering from that site is good to
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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An oil filter sandwich adapter is exactly what I am looking for...phunk I tried to find the Mocal one online with no success. Do you happen to have a part number..?
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Sorry to bring this back from the dead....

However, are there any concerns about having the return line for the turbo(s) dump below the oil level? Couldn't that slow the drain flow or possibly cause oil to back up in the return line?

At least that's why some go through the hassle of returning to the upper pan, correct?

Last, these are still available?
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