How to make HR power with a DE - insider info from NISMO
05-23-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wperdigon
typical... 
Typical of what?
Do the math. Nissan made the 287 motor. Then they made the 300. If they could have used the plenum from the 287 and the cams/timing forumla from the 300 to make an 'all powerful' engine, they would have. But they didn't, and this isn't the answer. Sorry.
So again. before and after dyno or Bull f'n Shyt.
05-23-2007, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
Typical of what?
Do the math. Nissan made the 287 motor. Then they made the 300. If they could have used the plenum from the 287 and the cams/timing forumla from the 300 to make an 'all powerful' engine, they would have. But they didn't, and this isn't the answer. Sorry.
So again. before and after dyno or Bull f'n Shyt.
Do the math. Nissan made the 287 motor. Then they made the 300. If they could have used the plenum from the 287 and the cams/timing forumla from the 300 to make an 'all powerful' engine, they would have. But they didn't, and this isn't the answer. Sorry.
So again. before and after dyno or Bull f'n Shyt.
besides, what did i say about the plenum? absolutely nothing....
05-23-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wperdigon
interesting - what evidence do you have support your statement that it's bs? you have none, your comment was a useless one to the thread - it's not rocket science here, its marketing...considering the rev up vs non rev up...
05-23-2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wperdigon
Interesting enough if you take a non rev-up motor and swap the exhuast cams from the Rev-up motor and then retard the timing on the exhaust cams 3 degrees, or by one link back on the exhaust cam sproket, you will make exactly the same power as the Rev-Up with much more torque being gained on the bottom end -
05-23-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wperdigon
interesting - what evidence do you have support your statement that it's bs? you have none, your comment was a useless one to the thread - it's not rocket science here, its marketing...considering the rev up vs non rev up...
besides, what did i say about the plenum? absolutely nothing....
besides, what did i say about the plenum? absolutely nothing....
05-23-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian
I think thats the part thats funny 
05-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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ahhh I get it someone tells us something intersting and we call bs... Yea dynos would help so in essence it can be called BS. But why be as$es to each other and among one another?? Sure does make my350z.com look like honda-tech 
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05-23-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wperdigon
ah cute - loving the mod list there of floor mats.....
My current mods:
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05-23-2007, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
Typical of what?
Do the math. Nissan made the 287 motor. Then they made the 300. If they could have used the plenum from the 287 and the cams/timing forumla from the 300 to make an 'all powerful' engine, they would have. But they didn't, and this isn't the answer. Sorry.
So again. before and after dyno or Bull f'n Shyt.
Do the math. Nissan made the 287 motor. Then they made the 300. If they could have used the plenum from the 287 and the cams/timing forumla from the 300 to make an 'all powerful' engine, they would have. But they didn't, and this isn't the answer. Sorry.
So again. before and after dyno or Bull f'n Shyt.
Will, what does altering the timing of the rear cam do to driveability and emissions?
Last edited by Motormouth; 05-23-2007 at 11:28 AM.
05-23-2007, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NA&CH
ahhh I get it someone tells us something intersting and we call bs... Yea dynos would help so in essence it can be called BS. But why be as$es to each other and among one another?? Sure does make my350z.com look like honda-tech ...
... We first need a sound theory, then someone to test it. Credible reference to the OPs source would also go a long way in getting the "discussion" going.
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05-23-2007, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NA&CH
ahhh I get it someone tells us something intersting and we call bs... Yea dynos would help so in essence it can be called BS. But why be as$es to each other and among one another?? Sure does make my350z.com look like honda-tech ...
... I can say a cetain intake/exhaust combo makes 50 whp, but who's gonna believe that without proof?
05-23-2007, 11:50 AM
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The HR motor is completely redisigned. It is not as simple as a cam swap that makes this kind of power. I have owned a 06' and I now own a 07' and I can tell you the engine is completely different. The power comes online very early and very smooth. The torque transition is very nice, plus it pulls hard, something the DE motor couldn't do stock. Like I said, i'm no calling bs but i'm skeptical because the streetable exhaust cams cannot really add too much power.
05-23-2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EM-EFER
I have already done this. Only downfall is you will get Timing SES light.
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05-23-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
Anyone can come on here and say whatever they want, but without proof to back something up, most smart people are gonna be skeptical. Are you willing to test this out without proven results? I think not.
I can say a cetain intake/exhaust combo makes 50 whp, but who's gonna believe that without proof?
I can say a cetain intake/exhaust combo makes 50 whp, but who's gonna believe that without proof?
