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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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The Rev-up cams are different than both the stock DE and Nismo cams. Nismo doesn't even have cams for the Rev-Up motors if I remember correctly, because the Rev-Ups have the VTC on both the intake and exhaust cams, unlike the regular DE which is only on the intake cams.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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id like to know how he is retarding the exhaust cam three degrees please??
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Old May 24, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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Do you have a base line before the cam install? It would help compair the effect of the cam swap. I want to do this but I would like to know before I start the 10hrs of work.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bugsbbunny
Interesting...title says "insider info from Nismo"...care to share? I'm not doubting you but just want the whole story.

Guys I know I don't post over here that much, but it doesn't mean I'm not known in the Z community. Thank you Tom for atleast giving another perspective to my defense -

Guys I have several friends that work with Nismo - Currently they have the SCCA 350Z with them and they made this discovery - it's not something I can attest to, but I'm am completely willing to determine it with my own personal labor with before and after dyno's -

After I posted this bit, someone said they had done it, I would presume that they did a before and after dyno correct?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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id like to know how he is retarding the exhaust cam three degrees please??
It is to my understanding that you retard the timing by skipping back one link on the cam sprocket
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Will has done and will do all the work on my car. He knows his sh*t.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Well em-efers dyno proved that he gained power but with all his mods including intake, exhaust, headers, cams, etc. I think I remember him also having high compression pistons.

Just adding a REVUP exhaust cam to the 287 motor and skipping a tooth on the cam sprocket will not get the same power as a HR.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by blknjz
Will has done and will do all the work on my car. He knows his sh*t.
Nobody really said he didn't, we as a community tend to wait for proof before we believe everything everybody posts.

Imagine if we believed all those newbs thinking the "turbonator" actually added power. What kind of world would that be?



BTW I added 4 turbonators and I gained 87whp, but I don't have dyno sheets.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
Well em-efers dyno proved that he gained power but with all his mods including intake, exhaust, headers, cams, etc. I think I remember him also having high compression pistons.

Just adding a REVUP exhaust cam to the 287 motor and skipping a tooth on the cam sprocket will not get the same power as a HR.
You are 100% correct.
You won't make HR power with just those parts. It will make the car run a tad better but torque will sputter out when it starts getting up top.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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I've actually met the OP and seen him at work. And his past work history and current job definitely makes his claims a lot more believable. I realize he doesn't post here very often but atleast someone has done it before and has dyno numbers.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tranceformer95
I've actually met the OP and seen him at work. And his past work history and current job definitely makes his claims a lot more believable. I realize he doesn't post here very often but atleast someone has done it before and has dyno numbers.
Thank you very much, I appriciate the kind words -

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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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will, please clarify: you meant to state that it will make REVUP power, not HR power, right?

I would edit the thread title to clear up confusion.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
Nobody really said he didn't, we as a community tend to wait for proof before we believe everything everybody posts.

Imagine if we believed all those newbs thinking the "turbonator" actually added power. What kind of world would that be?



BTW I added 4 turbonators and I gained 87whp, but I don't have dyno sheets.
My point exactly.

But it does seem as if he knows a thing or two.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Well just my $.02, i think this is kind of a good descovery because even if it gains ~10 HP and makes some more torque, its still more. More for less. And in the NA world, isnt that what everyone B!tches about? Go turbo gain 100HP for $XXXX or gain 10 HP NA? I see the same argument quite often and with this new idea, you can get more power for cheaper, therefore justifying the NA routes alittle more. You can get the REV-UP cams from a salvaged 350z, or from http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...06&catalogid=1
for $150 a cam. Cheaper then aftermarket, and roughtly the same gains if you do the timing.


Now what i wonder is...bum bum bum! lol. Putting the Rev-up intake cams in also! (If possible, i dont know if you can or not but what if?) or maybe even...BUM BUM BUMMMM! The HR Cams! Holy Guacamole Batman!

-Discuss...
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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^ That's prolly not gonna happen due to the VTC differences in the three engines.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
My point exactly.

But it does seem as if he knows a thing or two.
but I just feel it is the way we as a forum go about disputing something. it isn't a gradual thing where we ask questions to clarify murky issues and eventually get to the truth (if it's right or not) we off the bat blow up and start calling people liars. now no one might have said 'liar' but all the posts 'proof, proof!!' < that is what they are doing in a subtle... or not so subtle way.

people did have good questions in this thread but they were swallowed up buy all the jibberjabber.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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I suppose we need to start believe everything we hear.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian
I suppose we need to start believe everything we hear.
Oh kewl~ In that case, here's my before & after dynos with my zip-tied interFooler, Cardboard Turbo, & digital BOV. Lol! :-)
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Okay, it's one to be doubtful, but now everyone seems to be just mocking the OP. Who wants to read 100 posts about everyone mocking someone who's trying to help out the forum?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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And getting around the CEL light

Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
id like to know how he is retarding the exhaust cam three degrees please??
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