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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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16 pages of crap and the starter of the thread and his lemmings still have yet to conclude their throttle body spacer yielded no gains but its still a good product. They have resorted to name calling because they have nothing left to back up their product. So OCG35 and G35_TX really need to admit their product they spent money on does nothing and is as useful as a vtec sticker.

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175673
Old Oct 29, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Lmao!!!!!!!!
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What late-night info-mercial did these come from? Good grief. Talk about lousy science.
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invalid thread? thats what i see when i click it
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
... So OCG35 and G35_TX really need to admit their product they spent money on does nothing and is as useful as a vtec sticker.
It's not their product. They are not getting a penny out of any sales, nor have they spent money developing it.

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im sure they got free items like other mods on there for crap that doesnt work, and when i am referring to their product they spent money on, it means the product they spent money on since now they own it...reading comphension is no overrated huh?
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the term chicken **** comes to mind while reading that 16 page rant, people kept asking for proof and all they could do is say "i know it works so there"
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
16 pages of crap and the starter of the thread and his lemmings still have yet to conclude their throttle body spacer yielded no gains but its still a good product. They have resorted to name calling because they have nothing left to back up their product. So OCG35 and G35_TX really need to admit their product they spent money on does nothing and is as useful as a vtec sticker.

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175673

@ that thread
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Hmmm It may seem the title of this thread may be a self fulfilling proficey.

So what exactly does this have to do with us here when no rants have been posted about this product. Is this a call to arms, or a plea to join the lemming band waggon.

Not quite shure whats the desired responce from the masses here over at a totaly diffrent site.
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hmmm. wonder why they deleted it. haha
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Hmmm It may seem the title of this thread may be a self fulfilling proficey.

So what exactly does this have to do with us here when no rants have been posted about this product. Is this a call to arms, or a plea to join the lemming band waggon.

Not quite shure whats the desired responce from the masses here over at a totaly diffrent site.
before it got deleted they were making claims that the tbs was making power and pulled in the z forums as backup without any proof
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The only thing a TB spacer is good for is to tap for nitrous or water/meth injection. Oh, wait, it sucks for that too. SNAP!
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tbs work better on a carb setup
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
im sure they got free items like other mods on there for crap that doesnt work, and when i am referring to their product they spent money on, it means the product they spent money on since now they own it...reading comphension is no overrated huh?
Again, its not his product. I am not backing nor bashing the product, because I have not tried. So I will keep any commets to myself.

He didn't get any free items nor does he (OCG35) supply them. If you kept along with the thread, you would see that he was only doing group buy for them. In other words, he just created a seperate thread for a group buy so that the supplier (forgot the company name) could supply them. He was just in charge of the group buy.

Anyone who bought these products didn't get them from OCG35; they are not his product .

It is a very controversial mod and, like I said before, I have not really done much research on them because the information on TBS is scarce in the VQ community. Probably because of the lack of support & proof of it actually yielding results.

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I asked why he was willing to post replies that riveled the length of War & Peace and Shogun combined that undoubtedly took some time but wasn't willing to post up more than one dubious dyno thread reference that MIGHT have taken 30 sec at most. After all, the dyno proof was everywhere correct?
He claimed he never saved those threads (ie.. subscribed) but every time I replied to this TBS review, he would post in like 5 minutes ie.. subcribed w/ email notification.

I can post Hydrazine's comments on the subject if it's requested but he said, he tries to keep out of this subject. I don't think this thing was worth his time. And I tend to trust what Hydrazine posts as he provides dyno sheets up the ying yang.
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Again, its not his product. I am not backing nor bashing the product, because I have not tried. So I will keep any commets to myself.

He didn't get any free items nor does he (OCG35) supply them. If you kept along with the thread, you would see that he was only doing group buy for them. In other words, he just created a seperate thread for a group buy so that the supplier (forgot the company name) could supply them. He was just in charge of the group buy.

Anyone who bought these products didn't get them from OCG35; they are not his product .

It is a very controversial mod and, like I said before, I have not really done much research on them because the information on TBS is scarce in the VQ community. Probably because of the lack of support & proof of it actually yielding results.

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you are still misunderstanding when I say 'his product' its his in the sense he paid for an item making ownership his so its 'his tbs'
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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I asked why he was willing to post replies that riveled the length of War & Peace and Shogun combined that undoubtedly took some time but wasn't willing to post up more than one dubious dyno thread reference that MIGHT have taken 30 sec at most. After all, the dyno proof was everywhere correct?
He claimed he never saved those threads (ie.. subscribed) but every time I replied to this TBS review, he would post in like 5 minutes ie.. subcribed w/ email notification.

I can post Hydrazine's comments on the subject if it's requested but he said, he tries to keep out of this subject. I don't think this thing was worth his time. And I tend to trust what Hydrazine posts as he provides dyno sheets up the ying yang.
Tony tested one 2 years ago and it didnt work then, the tbs they are claiming that makes power is a rip off of the ones helix powertower make, helix was selling a tbs 12 months before theirs came out and they are the same
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
Tony tested one 2 years ago and it didnt work then, the tbs they are claiming that makes power is a rip off of the ones helix powertower make, helix was selling a tbs 12 months before theirs came out and they are the same
I just hate to see people getting taken for $80 for a tiny simple machined aluminum block that required no R&D whatsoever. The guy selling them in the other thread stated that I would make gains with a turbo setup with one. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Any "rifled" design is worthless for anything. I don't want ANY and I mean ANY restriction in my intake tract until the air hits the velocity stacks in the manifold. That includes turbonators and rifled throttle body spacers.

What's next? Vendors coming here again and trying to sell "power boxes" that are nothing more than a wad of wires inside a plastic box? Some of you old timers might know what I'm referring to....
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or clutch adjustment kits that do nothing to address the issue, i offered money for the tbs people to prove their product works...if it does its like free money for them, but yet they have not accepted my offer. in reality if the product worked they would be chiming in with pics, REAL DYNO plots, and offers to take the money bet



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