Is this normal?
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As the car cools, the water contracts and the pressure drops. Because the radiator hose is old and weak, it is collapsing. A new hose would be stiff and resist the force that the vacuum is exerting. If it's getting weak enough to collapse, chances are it's weak enough to burst. Time for a new one.
Radiator Water doesn't contract. It's a liquid. Liquids don't compress, but air does (I think Dave might mean air). There might be some air in your radiator. Perhaps a simple flush or drain will do the trick. Take it to your local 10-minute oil change station and ask for a $30-$70 radiator flush or drain it and fill it again yourself.
Also, it is hard to tell from the picture, but that hose does not look healthy (and if your car does that, it probably has been stressing the hose so much that it should be replaced anyhow).
Also, it is hard to tell from the picture, but that hose does not look healthy (and if your car does that, it probably has been stressing the hose so much that it should be replaced anyhow).
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It's only done it since the TT install. About 2200 miles. I'll switch it when I change my radiator IF I EVER GET THE DAMN THING!!! I guess it's been on back order for 2 months now.
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Originally Posted by gsxrjohn
The car is a 06 w only 16k miles??? You think it's worn out already?
Originally Posted by mavtais
Radiator Water doesn't contract.
You're thinking that water is incompressable. That means that it doesn't compress and expand like air does (i.e. pressure change). Water and just about every other fluid easily expands and contracts under heating and cooling.
-- that concludes my Mr. Wizard lesson for the day.
Originally Posted by DaytonaRoadster
o rly? Diesel Engine?....lol i know what you mean 
Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
If the radiator water doesn't expand and contract, then why does every car made in the last 30+ years have a radiator overflow tank???? Next time you go out one morning when the engine is cold, look at the water level of that catch tank. It should be around the low/cold mark. Drive the car around for an hour until it's good and hot then look at the level. It should be up around the high/hot mark. Park it over night and check the level again and I'll bet it will be back at the low/cold mark.
You're thinking that water is incompressable. That means that it doesn't compress and expand like air does (i.e. pressure change). Water and just about every other fluid easily expands and contracts under heating and cooling.
-- that concludes my Mr. Wizard lesson for the day.
You're thinking that water is incompressable. That means that it doesn't compress and expand like air does (i.e. pressure change). Water and just about every other fluid easily expands and contracts under heating and cooling.
-- that concludes my Mr. Wizard lesson for the day.
My guess is that there is some air in the system to cause the hose to collapse. Like I said, it's just a guess.
Originally Posted by gsxrjohn
It's only done it since the TT install. About 2200 miles. I'll switch it when I change my radiator IF I EVER GET THE DAMN THING!!! I guess it's been on back order for 2 months now.
You can purge the cooling system here:
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Ok, I bleed the system today and it still did it. Some thing I noticed that I didn't before, I guess I have no over flow now. Does the Greddy kit not relocate it or something? All I have it the hose with a screw in it now.
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Ok, I bleed the system today and it still did it. Some thing I noticed that I didn't before, I guess I have no over flow now. Does the Greddy kit not relocate it or something? All I have it the hose with a screw in it now.


I don't think it's supposed to look like that. A smaller aftermarket overflow can might not be out of the question for your setup.
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Ok, I bleed the system today and it still did it. Some thing I noticed that I didn't before, I guess I have no over flow now. Does the Greddy kit not relocate it or something? All I have it the hose with a screw in it now.
Since your's is plugged with no place for the pressure to go, my guess is that when the car is running, the extra pressure is stretching the hoses making them weaker. When it cools, the hoses contract - more so than normal.
I'd be more concerned about there being no relief "valve" for the system. The high radiator pressure could pop that hose loose or worse, something in the radiator or some other part/hose/bypass.
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OK so I found out the kit was suppose to come with a overflow, but since I bought my kit used, I didn't get it. Just my luck. Anyway, I work on streetbikes and have lots of spare parts lying around. I've got a few overflows that might work. What's the smallest one I could use?
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