***Aftermarket LSD Reviews***
Type of LSD: Quaife ATB
Can i Change the Lock-up rate?: No
Type of Driving you Do: Daily Driving
Type of conditions you live in: Chicago--rain, sleet, snow, and sun
LSD Loudness: 1/10. I hardly every hear anything coming from the diff.
Overall Impression: Great Upgrade to those wanting an aftermarket LSD without the associated noise and maintenance that accompanies clutch pack diff's. Only downsides is the price which is a bit high, and if you have a stock vlsd, you have to get axel stubs from an open diff.
Recommend to Others?: Yes! Requires no maintenance, other than the occasional diff fluid change (I use Slykolene and change it out once a year). Also Quaife offers a lifetime warranty for street use and racing!
Can i Change the Lock-up rate?: No
Type of Driving you Do: Daily Driving
Type of conditions you live in: Chicago--rain, sleet, snow, and sun
LSD Loudness: 1/10. I hardly every hear anything coming from the diff.
Overall Impression: Great Upgrade to those wanting an aftermarket LSD without the associated noise and maintenance that accompanies clutch pack diff's. Only downsides is the price which is a bit high, and if you have a stock vlsd, you have to get axel stubs from an open diff.
Recommend to Others?: Yes! Requires no maintenance, other than the occasional diff fluid change (I use Slykolene and change it out once a year). Also Quaife offers a lifetime warranty for street use and racing!
Type OF LSD: Carbonetics ATS Carbon
Change Lock up Rate: No (but at 100% lock all the time, why would you want to?)
Type of Driving: NC, good weather street driving, some rain, no snow, drag occasionally, want to start HPDE.
LSD Loudness: 1-2/10. If you use standard fluid (75W90), you can hear pops faintly driving slowly, but with Motul 90PA, it is silent.
Overall Impression: Great diff but fluid changes every 1800 miles is ridiculous. Some let it go longer, but the carbon material eats up the gearset, resulting in whine. Anything more than 2k miles and you WILL have metal shavings in the fluid.
I should've picked the Quaife but couldn't get my hands on one that would fit in my pumpkin. I have a 5AT with the 3.3FD with VLSD, and I had to get the 3.5 gears to work with the ATS.
Recommend to others: For more track use, yes or if getting under the car is something you enjoy doing on the weekends. Otherwise get the maintenance free Quaife (whose only disadvantage is that if a wheel leaves the ground, the other wheel won't spin)
Change Lock up Rate: No (but at 100% lock all the time, why would you want to?)
Type of Driving: NC, good weather street driving, some rain, no snow, drag occasionally, want to start HPDE.
LSD Loudness: 1-2/10. If you use standard fluid (75W90), you can hear pops faintly driving slowly, but with Motul 90PA, it is silent.
Overall Impression: Great diff but fluid changes every 1800 miles is ridiculous. Some let it go longer, but the carbon material eats up the gearset, resulting in whine. Anything more than 2k miles and you WILL have metal shavings in the fluid.
I should've picked the Quaife but couldn't get my hands on one that would fit in my pumpkin. I have a 5AT with the 3.3FD with VLSD, and I had to get the 3.5 gears to work with the ATS.Recommend to others: For more track use, yes or if getting under the car is something you enjoy doing on the weekends. Otherwise get the maintenance free Quaife (whose only disadvantage is that if a wheel leaves the ground, the other wheel won't spin)
Quaife^
there are no production issues, never have been. There were distribution issues as Quaife UK was in process earlier this year of dropping their previous US distributor and selecting a new one.
The Quaife is the best all around LSD for a daily driven base model
there are no production issues, never have been. There were distribution issues as Quaife UK was in process earlier this year of dropping their previous US distributor and selecting a new one.
The Quaife is the best all around LSD for a daily driven base model
I simply did not want to change the gear lube every 3-5k miles on a clutch style diff.
My oil changes are up to every 6 months ( mileage around 6k) due to my oil capacity and changing the gear lube every 3 months would be obnoxious to me.
Albeit his mountain road application would leave the quaife at a disadvantage to a clutch differential, wavetrac supposedly has a gear TBD that will continue putting torque down with a lifted wheel. I contacted them 3 years ago about their already in production 350z application but they would never give me a pricr or eta.
Last edited by ian99rt; Jul 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM.
if you read his application you'd instantly point him towards the quaife. Its the same reason I installed a quaife.
I simply did not want to change the gear lube every 3-5k miles on a clutch style diff.
My oil changes are up to every 6 months ( mileage around 6k) due to my oil capacity and changing the gear lube every 3 months would be obnoxious to me.
Albeit his mountain road application would leave the quaife at a disadvantage to a clutch differential, wavetrac supposedly has a gear TBD that will continue putting torque down with a lifted wheel. I contacted them 3 years ago about their already in production 350z application but they would never give me a pricr or eta.
I simply did not want to change the gear lube every 3-5k miles on a clutch style diff.
My oil changes are up to every 6 months ( mileage around 6k) due to my oil capacity and changing the gear lube every 3 months would be obnoxious to me.
Albeit his mountain road application would leave the quaife at a disadvantage to a clutch differential, wavetrac supposedly has a gear TBD that will continue putting torque down with a lifted wheel. I contacted them 3 years ago about their already in production 350z application but they would never give me a pricr or eta.
http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm
Have to purchase it from Nissan Motorsports USA as they have the development rights to selling it.
@ $1300 and if it delivers what they claim i may consider swapping diffs...
Looks like wavetrac actually has prices and an online store now:
http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm
Have to purchase it from Nissan Motorsports USA as they have the development rights to selling it.
@ $1300 and if it delivers what they claim i may consider swapping diffs...
http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm
Have to purchase it from Nissan Motorsports USA as they have the development rights to selling it.
@ $1300 and if it delivers what they claim i may consider swapping diffs...
Looks like wavetrac actually has prices and an online store now:
http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm
Have to purchase it from Nissan Motorsports USA as they have the development rights to selling it.
@ $1300 and if it delivers what they claim i may consider swapping diffs...
http://www.wavetrac.net/application.htm
Have to purchase it from Nissan Motorsports USA as they have the development rights to selling it.
@ $1300 and if it delivers what they claim i may consider swapping diffs...
I was very wary about this new comet to the differential scene.
Its a shame but at least consumers can get the low down before wasting the $.
I'm looking into a new diff. I have an 06 with oem vlsd that I don't think is working very well anymore. Especially on track. The inside rear wheel constantly spins coming out of tight low speed turns.
My car doesn't see insane amounts of track time, but I do compete in a local time attack series, and finding something that works well on track is just as important as it being streetable and hassle free.
Based on my research, I am strongly leaning towards the quaife. It seems to offer the right compromise for me. That said I have a couple questions /concerns I'm hoping you guys can help.
1) granted I understand that the quaife acts as an open diff when a wheel is lifted or has zero traction. But why is that such a huge turnoff to some? Since or our cars are rwd, it makes sense that our rear wheels are pretty much planted when powering out of a turn? In a case where you may hop a curb, the wheel will only be lifted for a fraction of a second, in which the quaife will do what it's supposed to once the wheel returns to the pavement. Is it the slight delay that is the turn off here or something else? Is is possible for our cars to naturally lift an individual rear wheel during hard cornering similar to how a fwd car can lift it's front wheel? My instinct says no but better to ask.
2) I understand a Torsen isn't measured in "percentage lock" per say, but is it possible to compare the amount of lock a quaife provides vs a clutch type or is that unrealistic? 40/60/80 percent?
Thx
My car doesn't see insane amounts of track time, but I do compete in a local time attack series, and finding something that works well on track is just as important as it being streetable and hassle free.
Based on my research, I am strongly leaning towards the quaife. It seems to offer the right compromise for me. That said I have a couple questions /concerns I'm hoping you guys can help.
1) granted I understand that the quaife acts as an open diff when a wheel is lifted or has zero traction. But why is that such a huge turnoff to some? Since or our cars are rwd, it makes sense that our rear wheels are pretty much planted when powering out of a turn? In a case where you may hop a curb, the wheel will only be lifted for a fraction of a second, in which the quaife will do what it's supposed to once the wheel returns to the pavement. Is it the slight delay that is the turn off here or something else? Is is possible for our cars to naturally lift an individual rear wheel during hard cornering similar to how a fwd car can lift it's front wheel? My instinct says no but better to ask.
2) I understand a Torsen isn't measured in "percentage lock" per say, but is it possible to compare the amount of lock a quaife provides vs a clutch type or is that unrealistic? 40/60/80 percent?
Thx
Last edited by timmywhatsup; Sep 5, 2013 at 09:48 PM.
i really mention the situation about a tire getting of the ground because here the entrances to some places have such akward angles that believe me, literally people have pushed/pulled my car to get out of it. It's kinda embarrasing, other than that, i drive in twisty roads sometimes, so the quaife definitely would do, but if the wavetrac also has "that" bonus for me then i could give it a try if it's worth it. Like someone else stated before in this thread: quaife is for boring daily driving.
So, has someone here tried the wavetrack?
So, has someone here tried the wavetrack?
Yeah the reason I was wondering is because it seems quite of few hardcore track guys frown at the fact the quaife acts in that manner, but I can't come up with any on track situations where you would lift a rear wheel aside from hitting something that throws the wheel up in the air.
Btw I have read if you apply the brake a little it will alleviate the open diff syndrome with the quaife in your situations.
Btw I have read if you apply the brake a little it will alleviate the open diff syndrome with the quaife in your situations.
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