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Old 04-27-2011 | 11:05 AM
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any other recommendations on gears?
Old 04-27-2011 | 11:13 AM
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You cant shave heads on VQ for higher compression, timing chain issue.

Stock heads have a 3 angle valve job.

You really need to do more research before getting into something like this.

Dont guarantee me anything in regards to your 1/4 time because you havent even run the car yet! NA you wont go 12's being an auto especially at 4500ft, you are hitting that pipe too hard. There are no 12 sec NA 6Mt G's that I know of, and especially an auto, built or not.

I'll send you on the right path but Im not going to sit here and tell you exactly, part for part you should by. People that send me those stlye PM's never get a response, help yourself now....

edit-I dont get bent out of shape over somebody's blind claims, Im just calling it how I see it. Ive seen peeps like you come and go several times over Im still here. Im truly trying to help, but like I said before you are making bad decisions, wasting money, and trying to justify your choices to somebody that has been thru every level of modding. You clearly need to just do more research, your parts contradict themseleves and what you think you are paying for (ex 3 angle valve job) you already have.

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Old 04-27-2011 | 11:28 AM
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even the non-rev heads have a 3 angle valve job?

ok, so you are pointing out all the problems but arent really offering any solutions. what are better options for headers? what is a good na CR to target? what intakes should i consider? i know the cosworth has shown to lose power. im not asking you to handpick my build, just give me some suggestions as opposed to pointing out problems and no solutions. you say you are trying to help, pointing out problems and no solutions does me no good.

by looking at the stock exh manifold, any headers will flow better. that is obvious. so when i got the headers for 150 shipped, that was good enough for me.

most na builds are lucky to reach the 300hp mark. that 6000 that ive spent includes a spare block, radiator, ati crank pulley, exh piping, etc.

if you want to help, start offering solutions if you have so much experience.
Old 04-27-2011 | 02:12 PM
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Start reading in the NA build section, it may help
Old 04-27-2011 | 02:47 PM
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start reading? ive been reading for the past 6 months almost everyday. unless i hear about some solutions instead of just picking things apart, ill assume they dont know since they dont offer advice.

anyway, this thread is about gears, not my build, which i will keep to myself when its done to avoid this very type of thread
Old 04-27-2011 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mgrotel

what i absolutely dont want to happen is for me to spend a bit of cash on this and have the car actually be slower accelerating, even though it may feel quicker. actual times and performance are much more important to me than what i "feel" in the car.

Based on this alone you should not get a new FD. The FD will only give you an improvement in first gear, so if you do a lot of drag racing it may be beneficial (assuming you can still get traction). Every other gear it's a wash versus the stock gearing. They certainly feel faster since you go through the gears quicker but because they are shorter you aren't actually going faster (unless it's from a dead stop in 1st, like I already mentioned).
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Originally Posted by PeterSellers
Based on this alone you should not get a new FD. The FD will only give you an improvement in first gear, so if you do a lot of drag racing it may be beneficial (assuming you can still get traction). Every other gear it's a wash versus the stock gearing. They certainly feel faster since you go through the gears quicker but because they are shorter you aren't actually going faster (unless it's from a dead stop in 1st, like I already mentioned).
thanks, i may just do the 3.69:1
by my math, which very well could be wrong, i came up with the following:

3.53 to 3.69 = 3000rpm would be bumped to 3136rpm (4.53% increase)
3.53 to 3.917= 3000rpm would be bumped to 3329rpm (10.96% increase)
3.53 to 4.08 = 3000rpm would be bumped to 3467rpm (15.58% increase)
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
thanks, i may just do the 3.69:1
by my math, which very well could be wrong, i came up with the following:

3.53 to 3.69 = 3000rpm would be bumped to 3136rpm (4.53% increase)
3.53 to 3.917= 3000rpm would be bumped to 3329rpm (10.96% increase)
3.53 to 4.08 = 3000rpm would be bumped to 3467rpm (15.58% increase)
Do you do a lot of drag racing? I'm talking from a dead stop, not freeway rolls where gears will do absolutely nothing for you.
Old 04-27-2011 | 07:04 PM
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all i gotta say is listen to alberto.. everything he's said is correct and with his knowledge on this from seeing his car, it would be your best bet...
Old 04-27-2011 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermy
all i gotta say is listen to alberto.. everything he's said is correct and with his knowledge on this from seeing his car, it would be your best bet...
if he would give me some recommendations on parts, maybe i would, but he refuses so my hands are tied
Old 04-27-2011 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterSellers
Do you do a lot of drag racing? I'm talking from a dead stop, not freeway rolls where gears will do absolutely nothing for you.
no, very little drag racing actually. but gears wont help a little at higher speeds? i know they do out of the hole more, but there has to be some benefit at higher speeds, right?
Old 04-27-2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
if he would give me some recommendations on parts, maybe i would, but he refuses so my hands are tied
Stop being such a baby.

I had doubts about the info I posted regarding the 3 angle valve job. I recall Z1 posting either its a 3 or now Im thinking 5 angle from the factory, and within searching that so I could post accurate info here, I found his thread below.

Same situation, he is trying to help you and you dont want to hear it

If all you want to do is rev to 8000rpm's, sell your Z and buy an S2000.

Again, Im not going to even give you suggestions because in already doing so by telling you to re-evaluate your plans/goals/budget and you got your panties in a bunch and started crying because Im not naming parts as replacements esentially giving a parts by parts list.

Please feel free to spend $6000+ and end up with 280whp if you are lucky.

Bottom line cuz you seem hard headed--->unless you spend A LOT of money, you will not see great gains with cams and heads NA over bolt-ons/standard mods and a good tune. Its A WASTE OF MONEY, ESPECIALLY ON AN AUTOMATIC CAR. Thats not auto hate, thats the fawking truth.

Your first lesson in the right direction is below, which you failed to take...Im sure if I searched thru your threads Id find much more.

https://my350z.com/forum/na-builds/5...nrevup-de.html

Im done with trying to help.

edit-thought your SN looked familiar, how could I forget about this golden thread and expectations! Boosted, and lasting 100K miles lol, please share that recipe with me when you find it.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...rbo-or-na.html

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Old 04-27-2011 | 09:06 PM
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oh, big suprise, more negativity. what did i do to you anyway?
some people on here are so gawdamn full of themselves it makes me sick.

btw, thanks for the amazing insight there genious
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