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Old 09-30-2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by XChacalX
before he closed I did a dyno vs dyno same day and within 2-3 hours
it was a dynojet vs dynapack
the reasult ? my # on the dynojet was 3 whp more

we were surprised by this finding ..

I was at 324whp vs his 372whp.
just as a reference at Cayuga at his last CSCS time attack he went up to 198km/h at the end of the front straight
I can only get up to 178-180whp

its a big 20km/h which is HP right there


I know before he put his ITB ,, he was at 342whp (july/september) with his modified upper intake plenum

His cam were the JWTC10intake C9exhaust
Your mods? HR? VHR?
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Originally Posted by kacz07
Your mods? HR? VHR?

VHR and too much mod to write them all again
Old 09-30-2012, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by XChacalX
VHR and too much mod to write them all again
Just checking. If you we're DE I was about to
Old 09-30-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kacz07
Just checking. If you we're DE I was about to
why ?
that 372whp was made on a VQ35DE non-rev

324 whouldnt be that hard ... a bit expensive but isnt that hard.
Old 09-30-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KingBaby
I like the OG Jetpilot better....

I wonder how his rebuild is going?
this
Old 09-30-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
372whp on a cold snowy night on a hub dyno...
My thoughts exactly
Old 09-30-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by herrschaft
My thoughts exactly

I guess you didnt read everything ...
Old 09-30-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by XChacalX
I guess you didnt read everything ...
Dyno numbers can be manipulated. So what did I miss?
Old 09-30-2012, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by herrschaft
Dyno numbers can be manipulated. So what did I miss?

cool stay in your world then . as if he was manipuling those numbers ,, haha

them how can those VQs that are being used in Grand Am race car have up to 420whp ? N/A Power only.

ohh ok they are also manipuling their number to a higher number ? ok... cool
I didnt know
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Originally Posted by XChacalX
cool stay in your world then . as if he was manipuling those numbers ,, haha

them how can those VQs that are being used in Grand Am race car have up to 420whp ? N/A Power only.

ohh ok they are also manipuling their number to a higher number ? ok... cool
I didnt know
My own world, huh. So shops like Church's and their magical dyno don't exist I guess. And I'll admit I know nothing about "Grand Am" race cars, but do they run pump gas??? And show me a build thread of these 380+whp DE's with just cams, bolt-ons and tune because I'd like to judge for myself.

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Originally Posted by herrschaft
My own world, huh. So shops like Church's and their magical dyno don't exist I guess. And I'll admit I know nothing about "Grand Am" race cars, but do they run pump gas??? Show me a build thread of these 370+whp DE's with just cams, bolt-ons and tune because I'd like to judge for myself.

its a race car running race stuff ,,, come on ....
custom everything
his tilton flywheel+clucth is around 15lbs ! yes both together
light weight part , custom piston and so much more...

http://www.sg-motorsport.com/?p=1110

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^Exactly
I'm not saying its impossible. Maybe I'm making the mistake by assuming here but this is what I'm thinking going off the OP: Bolt-ons, cams, tune, pump gas. 380+whp on a DE sounds far fetched to me with that criteria. I just read that article and they switched to race gas halfway through testing.

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Originally Posted by herrschaft
^Exactly
Maybe I'm making the mistake by assuming here but this is what I'm thinking: Bolt-ons, cams, tune, pump gas. 380+whp sounds far fetched to me. I read that article and they switched to race gas halfway through testing.
that race gas might have given something not much more than 15whp in the end.

JWT has some bigger Cams now which is going to give even more power

but you have to think that at this point being able to daily drive it is out of the question ....
Old 09-30-2012, 09:02 AM
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This thread is spent. Possible? Yes...but what does an arbitrary # on a specific dyno have to do with anything OP? Where the hell did you get 380 from? Who-cares.
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With all the money youre looking at spending you might as well go FI and be happy. These bolt on threads are starting to get dumb.
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Originally Posted by grimm66
With all the money youre looking at spending you might as well go FI and be happy. These bolt on threads are starting to get dumb.
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Until I see some dyno sheets I call bs
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Originally Posted by grimm66
With all the money youre looking at spending you might as well go FI and be happy. These bolt on threads are starting to get dumb.

depending on what you goal is and class restriction, staying NA can be a wiser decision.
adding a FI system , you are also adding quite a lot of other problems that arent needed in the first choice.
mostly heat management....
doing enduro is a whole different world than just going at the drag strip !

anyway 98% of this forum should be best to either stay with basic bolt-on or FI !!
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Originally Posted by 350z006
Until I see some dyno sheets I call bs
hahah funny ....
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Originally Posted by 350z006
Until I see some dyno sheets I call bs

so calling BS on a guy that started to work on the VQ for over 5 year and doing research & developpement and having his own rented dyno in his shop

doing dyno test over and over with different part to come up to the best configuration is BS ?

where can you find any of his bolt on ? they are custom made !
have you seen any of his work ?

poeple like you make people like him to not post anything and to keep those secrets .
he doesnt have anything to prove.

try to built something similar to his setup and we will see if its BS or not

hahah guys like you make me laugh

ITB / ported head / C10intake C9ex. / Tri-step long tube header / custom Y-pipe and 3.5'' Y-back exhaust. ran with Motec ECU / extremly light flywheel+cluth / and soo much more ...

thats BS anyway ,, right ?

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