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Old 11-20-2010, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RICHARDHAUNTER
Has anyone used synthetic gear oil for a los period of time on a 2003-2006 manual transmission? Is it realiable and safe on the long run?
did my tranny drain n fill found out it was tough finding gl 4 gear oil, so i went to nissan and got the fluid, differential is gl5. dont see why synthetic gl4 wouldnt be good im always for synthetic oils. long as youre able to find it.
Old 11-20-2010, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mcutali
did my tranny drain n fill found out it was tough finding gl 4 gear oil, so i went to nissan and got the fluid, differential is gl5. dont see why synthetic gl4 wouldnt be good im always for synthetic oils. long as youre able to find it.
True, I found that our transmissions are highly sensitive to viscosity and finding 75W-85 was impossible. I tried Redline MT-90 and found it ruined my mpg and first cold shifts were a grind in freezing temps. Hopefully the MT-85 fairs better. I don't feel like changing oil in the cold again lol.
Old 11-21-2010, 09:57 AM
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i just changed my tranny fluid and differential fluid with redline MT85 (tranny) and redline75w-90 (differential). I have no problems.!!!.specially the MT85, the shifting is silky smooth!!!
Old 11-22-2010, 11:30 AM
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I changed my tranny fluid the other day and I believe I've found an easier way to do it. First of all, I was lucky enough to be able to get it on a lift which made the process a little easier because I didn't have to spend 20 mins jacking up the car and then trying to crawl under, but this method should still work just fine if thats the way you do it. The only thing you need is a sauce pump that you can buy at your local food shop or grocery store. It only costs a couple of bucks and it works great. All you have to do is stick it in the bottle, grab the bottle and the pump's tube with one hand, and hold the top of the pump for support so that it doesn't snap off. Then just push the bottle up and pull it back down. There is no mess whatsoever and it fills up the tranny fast.

Here's a pic of the one I used.

Old 11-22-2010, 02:39 PM
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There may not be enough clearance to fit yourself and all that under the car if it is not on a lift.
Old 11-22-2010, 02:54 PM
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yeah that looks a little tricky on no-lift. worth a try though
Old 11-22-2010, 03:01 PM
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I used the $10 suction gun from Advance Auto others have shown. It wasn't terrible with help from a friend, just a little messy.
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There's actually more than enough of room. The bottle is only 9 inches (Redline) and the pump that I used was 20in from top to bottom, but it could be trimmed down to about 12in. If you're using jack stands, that's at least 15+ inches from the ground to the fill hole. This method is a lot easier, cleaner, and only takes like 5 minutes to fill up the tranny.
Old 11-23-2010, 10:48 AM
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Well I swapped out the redline mt-85 for some amsoil 75w90, and I gotta say I like the amsoil better. The amsoil definitely isn't as clunky as the redline was. While the redline was significantly more clunky than the OEM fluid for me, I'd say the amsoil is marginally better than OEM. I wouldn't say that changing any of these fluids provided a drastic change over one another though, which I found odd, considering that the redline fluid in my old mazdaspeed 3 was a HUGE difference over the OEM stuff. Guess the VQ trans is just odd that way.

The only downside I have with the amsoil is that shifting into second gear is a lot tougher in the morning. No grinds or anything like that, but the shifter is just really stiff. Not a big deal for me.
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Originally Posted by PeterSellers
Well I swapped out the redline mt-85 for some amsoil 75w90, and I gotta say I like the amsoil better. The amsoil definitely isn't as clunky as the redline was. While the redline was significantly more clunky than the OEM fluid for me, I'd say the amsoil is marginally better than OEM. I wouldn't say that changing any of these fluids provided a drastic change over one another though, which I found odd, considering that the redline fluid in my old mazdaspeed 3 was a HUGE difference over the OEM stuff. Guess the VQ trans is just odd that way.

The only downside I have with the amsoil is that shifting into second gear is a lot tougher in the morning. No grinds or anything like that, but the shifter is just really stiff. Not a big deal for me.
That's the same problem I had with Redline MT-90 (75W-90). When temps were in the 30s the first shift in the morning sucked so bad and mpg dropped to 16mpg. One thing you could try is ride 1st gear for at least 10 seconds going slowly to circulate the oil.

Update: I've been on Redline MT-85 (75W-85) for almost 5 days and it's feeling great on my '05. Mpg is a solid 20mpg and shifter feel improves after the first 2 days it seems. I highly recommend this viscosity (Redline MT-85 or Nissan MTF) for this gen V35 or Z33.
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Originally Posted by VQdriver
That's the same problem I had with Redline MT-90 (75W-90). When temps were in the 30s the first shift in the morning sucked so bad and mpg dropped to 16mpg. One thing you could try is ride 1st gear for at least 10 seconds going slowly to circulate the oil.

Update: I've been on Redline MT-85 (75W-85) for almost 5 days and it's feeling great on my '05. Mpg is a solid 20mpg and shifter feel improves after the first 2 days it seems. I highly recommend this viscosity (Redline MT-85 or Nissan MTF) for this gen V35 or Z33.
VQ: i agreee!!!, i just changed mine to MT-85. And it was awsome!!..my previous oil was MT90 and it was notchy in the morning or initial use. ON THE NEW MT85, there was no notchy first gear and silky smooth to shift. Great Product!!!
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so should i stick to the suction pump method?

by the way... i talked to a parts guy from the dealership today.. he said the fill plug in the diff is a little impossible to reach and suggested me use the drain plug to fill... is he correct?
Old 11-24-2010, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipZ
VQ: i agreee!!!, i just changed mine to MT-85. And it was awsome!!..my previous oil was MT90 and it was notchy in the morning or initial use. ON THE NEW MT85, there was no notchy first gear and silky smooth to shift. Great Product!!!
Yeah seriously. I look forward to driving my car every shift knowing it's gonna feel great!

I hope my S13 shifts this well on MT-85. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.i just changed it tonight. I mixed 1 leftover qt of MT-90 and the rest is MT-85.

So I'm proposing that the best combo of synthetic gear oil in proper viscosity is probably Redline MT-85 in the trans and Amsoil 80W-90 in the diff. Perhaps I will run Amsoil in the rear diff next spring when I need to put it on jackstands again lol.
Old 11-24-2010, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
so should i stick to the suction pump method?

by the way... i talked to a parts guy from the dealership today.. he said the fill plug in the diff is a little impossible to reach and suggested me use the drain plug to fill... is he correct?

I'm not sure how that would work unless you had a tube that screwed into the hole. Use the method I used, 10x easier than using stupid pumps that you have to refill and will eventually leak.
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I would buy the suction gun as a back up if you are not on a lift, just in case you do not have clearance. I remember not being able to fit the bottle with a short funnel under there.

If you are able to fit the pump under there, then return the suction gun.
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I had my wheels off when I serviced the transmission (also flushed the brake fluid) and found this method to be very easy and straightforward....

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The little black clip allowed me to pump the fluid without having to hold the tube in place...

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I just held each bottle with my feet and pumped the fluid into the transmission.

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The pump didn't reach down to the bottom of the bottles, so I ended up having to poor "partials" into one bottle to completely fill the transmission. (used a funnel)
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That's a pretty sweet setup. What kind of pump is that? The clip on the end makes the job so much neater.
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Originally Posted by VQdriver
That's a pretty sweet setup. What kind of pump is that? The clip on the end makes the job so much neater.
Got it at Autozone. I already threw the package away so I don't have a part number. It was cheap though.
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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY
Got it at Autozone. I already threw the package away so I don't have a part number. It was cheap though.
In your pictures above, are those 2 different pumps, the one coming from the MTF bottle (1st pic) and the one with the black clip (2nd pic)? How much were they? Maybe that'll make my digging at autozone easier
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
In your pictures above, are those 2 different pumps, the one coming from the MTF bottle (1st pic) and the one with the black clip (2nd pic)? How much were they? Maybe that'll make my digging at autozone easier
Just one pump. (came with the clip) Don't remember the exact price but I think it was less than ten bucks.


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