Notices

HOW TO: Install a Walbro GSS342

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 19, 2011 | 03:13 PM
  #101  
Boostguru's Avatar
Boostguru
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 356
Likes: 0
From: SW.Oklahoma/N.Texas
Default

Just installed my walbro today via the OP's site, awesome write up

I have one method that i thought i'd share that made putting on the metal fuel sock retainer easy for me. I used a penny to keep one side of the retainer in place while using a flathead to push the other side down onto the plastic rod/nipple....working it back and forth until it was seated satisfactorily. Attached is a pic of what i mean....
Attached Thumbnails HOW TO: Install a Walbro GSS342-2011-02-19_16.22.54.jpg  
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2011 | 03:18 PM
  #102  
Boostguru's Avatar
Boostguru
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 356
Likes: 0
From: SW.Oklahoma/N.Texas
Default

Originally Posted by scenehouser
2. i left that black rubber piece located at the bottom of the pump out as it didn't fit as snuck on the walbro and didn't seem to have an important fuction. now i wonder if that piece is there to dampen some of the vibrations of the pump to the gastank as i now have quite a audible buzzing sound coming from the tank area behind the passangerseat.

anyone did reuse that rubber part? if so, can you hear your pump buzzing when idling?

thnx
I left the rubber piece out, i've started the car up a few times and the pump is definately louder (as expected) but i havent driven it yet. I didnt notice any buzzing or vibration, I made sure the cap at the bottom of the pump was VERY snug so that might be why. Maybe you filed the cap down too much?
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:08 AM
  #103  
scenehouser's Avatar
scenehouser
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
From: Netherlands
Default

nah it's not like i hear something really vibrating or buzzing.. it's just the humm of the pump that i hear.

i didn't have the file the locking cap. after cutting away the 4 thingieson the underside of the pump the cap fit snug.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:00 AM
  #104  
Boostguru's Avatar
Boostguru
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 356
Likes: 0
From: SW.Oklahoma/N.Texas
Default

Originally Posted by scenehouser
nah it's not like i hear something really vibrating or buzzing.. it's just the humm of the pump that i hear.

i didn't have the file the locking cap. after cutting away the 4 thingieson the underside of the pump the cap fit snug.
Hmm..well i guess whatever works I cut 3 of 4 tabs like the writeup, went for a drive earlier and no problems at all, the pump is louder than factory, but i could only hear it running at idle after a drive.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:36 AM
  #105  
phunk's Avatar
phunk
Thread Starter
CJ Motorsports
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,997
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Default

Yes that is a fuel temperature sensor.

Most people don't trim the plastic enough to fit the rubber bushing back in. I never do. It may slightly reduce some noise from the pump, but keep in mind the 255 is quite a bit louder than a stock pump anyway. It's normal to hear it, especially if you don't have a loud exhaust.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:30 PM
  #106  
Cide's Avatar
Cide
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: Miami, Fl
Default

man u can hear it on my car like crazy. From outside it sounds like the inside of a plane when its sitting suring boarding. lol
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2011 | 12:18 PM
  #107  
Sam Mcgoo's Avatar
Sam Mcgoo
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 78
Likes: 1
From: UK
Default

I used this guide today and it was a god send.

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2011 | 07:36 PM
  #108  
andz33's Avatar
andz33
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

Anyone know if the gss341 can be used instead of gss342? I have a gss341 laying around and was wondering if it would work.
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 04:39 AM
  #109  
R6n350GT's Avatar
R6n350GT
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 268
Likes: 9
From: Australia
Default

Is the Swirl Jet Modification Procedure required for the DW300 ltr pump ? Just installed mine today and didnt do the jet modification yet.. Still NA but will be going FI when all my parts arrive.

Thanks
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 12:15 PM
  #110  
phunk's Avatar
phunk
Thread Starter
CJ Motorsports
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,997
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Default

of course it is
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 01:56 PM
  #111  
R6n350GT's Avatar
R6n350GT
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 268
Likes: 9
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by phunk
of course it is
Thanks for replying but was that for me or andz33?

This is in responce to the DW301 that i have, will Swirl Jet Modification Procedure need to be done:
1. When running NA stock motor (just bolt ons)
2. Built NA
3. FI

If 1. = YES then What happens if i just leave if while stock NA for now?

I have installed it already but will take it out if needed.

When upto this part "ONLY drill until you make it thru the sheet metal."
Can you give a better description or draw on your image of the part where it is, i had a quick look while i had the pump out and didnt see what you meant.


Thanks



A few things i found that may differ to the Walbro when installing the DW301.

1. The fourth tab (far left one) also needs to be trimmed, just half of it
2. You dont need to file off the marked green section, the cover fits on perfect, nice and snug.
3. You may want to trim before you put the fuel filter on.


For those who hate the noise of Walbro:
Oh and even with the back seats not in place, as i was going on a test drive i could barley hear the pump at all!! I had to lean over in the back and listen for it, with the seats on i wont hear a thing

So maybe a reason to get DW301 other than the increased fuel capacity and E85 compliance

Last edited by R6n350GT; May 14, 2011 at 02:00 PM.
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 02:07 PM
  #112  
phunk's Avatar
phunk
Thread Starter
CJ Motorsports
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,997
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Default

gss341 will not work, the input/output offset is opposite. although im sure you could make it work with some motivation.

as far as your questions... you are asking me questions that are all individually addressed in the DIY article posted. it states "Part 2: Swirl Jet Modification Procedure (REQUIRED FOR GSS342) If this step is skipped, your idle and low RPM/Load fuel pressure will be high and cause tuning grief. This will address the issue and is required WITH or WITHOUT a return fuel system."

being that your DW pump's output is even higher than the GSS342, one could naturally assume the problem will be even greater if not addressed.

As to where the regulator can be found, I dont think I could do a better job of explaning it than the 2 photographs showing you how to remove it that are directly above the photograph you linked. Unless you are meaning to ask something else?

As for your NA versus FI questions.... a fuel pump assembly does not know if your engine is NA or FI. The fuel pump is constantly pumping 100% of its capacity. how much of that fuel your engine is capable of burning at full throttle is largely irrelevent for the most part. The purpose of the modifications to the regulator and swirl jet are to improve return side flow of the fuel pump assembly so that fuel pressure remains controllable in idle and low load situations where the amount of return fuel is very high... in your case even higher than a GSS342.

So in short words, it doesnt matter if your car is NA or boosted.. the mods are to support the higher flow of the fuel pump whether you are using it to its capacity or not.

Last edited by phunk; May 14, 2011 at 02:22 PM.
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 02:30 PM
  #113  
R6n350GT's Avatar
R6n350GT
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 268
Likes: 9
From: Australia
Default

Thanks Charles,
Maybe add GSS342/DW301 to the write up to save questions, now i know its due to increased fuel pump output it makes sense.

And NA Vs FI i see now, makes sense

And sorry for my wording, i know where the regulator is, as i was saying i was looking at it and saw the little hole but my question was once you are drilling into it, how do you know you have passed the sheet metal? Is is just below that first rubber o ring, or further towards the bottom of the smaller diameter shaft? That was my question. Do you feel it lose once you pass it ect

Cheers

Last edited by R6n350GT; May 14, 2011 at 05:56 PM.
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 02:44 PM
  #114  
phunk's Avatar
phunk
Thread Starter
CJ Motorsports
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,997
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Default

the sheet metal i am describing is just the exterior surface that you can see. that small oriface is all that needs enlarging
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 03:11 PM
  #115  
R6n350GT's Avatar
R6n350GT
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 268
Likes: 9
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by phunk
the sheet metal i am describing is just the exterior surface that you can see. that small oriface is all that needs enlarging
I get that, i was trying to gauge how careful or how far i would expect to drill to open up the orifice before i went to far and drilled into something i shouldnt.

Im going to drill store now, hope they have what i need. .70 + 7/64?
I used 1/16" for the .70, .62close enough

Last edited by R6n350GT; May 14, 2011 at 05:51 PM. Reason: woops, = should have been a +
Reply
Old May 14, 2011 | 05:32 PM
  #116  
OldManZ350's Avatar
OldManZ350
New Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,429
Likes: 230
From: Florida
Default

.070 is .070

.70 is a little smaller that 3/4" (.75)

7/64 is .109375, Is still 53% larger than .070

Get a .070 Drill........
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2011 | 08:02 PM
  #117  
andz33's Avatar
andz33
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default


Is the fuel pressure regulator hollow?
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:42 AM
  #118  
phunk's Avatar
phunk
Thread Starter
CJ Motorsports
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,997
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Default

That CJM fitting that replaces the regulator is indeed hollow. its purpose is merely to allow you a way to send your return fuel into the venturi channels of the fuel pump assembly. So if you have a lathe or something of the like, it would be very simple to construct your own and save money.
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2011 | 05:09 PM
  #119  
andz33's Avatar
andz33
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

^ thanks. Just wanted to make sure since I just hollowed the oem regulator out and attached a 90 degree fitting
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:57 AM
  #120  
djamps's Avatar
djamps
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,492
Likes: 10
From: MD
Default

dead link
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:15 AM.