Help w/ Nardi/Personal with Works Bell QR
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Help w/ Nardi/Personal with Works Bell QR
i can't seem to get the horn button to snap into my steering wheel.
i screwed in the top half of the QR release to the steering wheel, but the horn button is too big.
anyone else run into this problem?
sorry for the vague post, but if you have this combo, you'll hopefully know what i am talking about.
added some pics.
1st pic shows the horn button and the hole it needs to fit in. it doesn't fit.
2nd pic shows the diagram. obviously the horn goes on top of the steering wheel, but it will still need to fit into the "compression ring" snug enough so that the button doesn't go flying away.
also in the 2nd pic, what does that "X" over one of the wires mean?
thx in advance.
i screwed in the top half of the QR release to the steering wheel, but the horn button is too big.
anyone else run into this problem?
sorry for the vague post, but if you have this combo, you'll hopefully know what i am talking about.
added some pics.
1st pic shows the horn button and the hole it needs to fit in. it doesn't fit.
2nd pic shows the diagram. obviously the horn goes on top of the steering wheel, but it will still need to fit into the "compression ring" snug enough so that the button doesn't go flying away.
also in the 2nd pic, what does that "X" over one of the wires mean?
thx in advance.
Last edited by drsifu; 07-14-2007 at 03:37 AM.
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The Personal wheels generally will need the inside edge hit with a light dremely to get the horn button to sit flush when using the quick disconnect. Not all styles do, just some. It literally takes 5 minutes to do
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I'm not sure about the X but one of the wires is to be grounded while the other is hot. When you touch the hot to a ground the horn should sound. Theres usually a ground ring with the kit. Those kits are normally easy to install.
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yeah....there is a ground wire and "power wire". just wondering why they put an "X" there.
thanks Z1 Auto for your PM. figure dremeling was the only way. just wanted to be sure it wasn't one of those tricks where if you go under than to the left and than back under and to the right for it to fit
as far as install, i don't think it will be too difficult
only special tool you'll need is a T30 Tamper-proof Torx bit/screwdriver
thanks Z1 Auto for your PM. figure dremeling was the only way. just wanted to be sure it wasn't one of those tricks where if you go under than to the left and than back under and to the right for it to fit
as far as install, i don't think it will be too difficult
only special tool you'll need is a T30 Tamper-proof Torx bit/screwdriver
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Originally Posted by drsifu
yeah....there is a ground wire and "power wire". just wondering why they put an "X" there.
thanks Z1 Auto for your PM. figure dremeling was the only way. just wanted to be sure it wasn't one of those tricks where if you go under than to the left and than back under and to the right for it to fit
as far as install, i don't think it will be too difficult
only special tool you'll need is a T30 Tamper-proof Torx bit/screwdriver
thanks Z1 Auto for your PM. figure dremeling was the only way. just wanted to be sure it wasn't one of those tricks where if you go under than to the left and than back under and to the right for it to fit
as far as install, i don't think it will be too difficult
only special tool you'll need is a T30 Tamper-proof Torx bit/screwdriver
The horn was a little bit tricky.
I bought the Personal Neo Grinta with W-B Quick Release... It's true that the horn button doesn't fit at all out of the box but i didn't have to do any dremelling.. all you got to do is remove the "inner ring".. you'll see what i mean when you get it.. it's not apparent at first but there seems to be another ring, inside of where you press the horn button in... it pulls right out.. I think it's some kind of spacer or something that's there for compatibility reasons on a wide variety of steering wheels?
once you pull that out, the horn button can be pressed snug into the hole..I just pressed it in with some force and my thumb... You can probably use a rubber mallet to tap it in.. I think the metal "hook" on top of the horn button has to also make contact with the grounding ring mine works now so im not taking it apart lol
Oh and you have to hook up both wires in both locations.. don't leave anythigng unhooked.. that picture with the "x" messed me up too.. I was trying 20 diff combinations before i realized all wires need to be connected..
--mike
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thx g-unit
never even considered removing the metal ring. i know the one you are talking about.
it does look like a spacer, and I assume to ensure you don't crush the black and red wire beneath it.
yeah...i got the parts from a local friend, so I didn't get all the little things like the T30 bit and the extra resistor that Z1 provides. sounds like Z1 sells everything needed for a pain free install.
the metal hook on the horn button would automatically touch the "spacer", so I wonder if it also serves as a ground point???
i'll try to figure something out
again, thx for all the help
never even considered removing the metal ring. i know the one you are talking about.
it does look like a spacer, and I assume to ensure you don't crush the black and red wire beneath it.
yeah...i got the parts from a local friend, so I didn't get all the little things like the T30 bit and the extra resistor that Z1 provides. sounds like Z1 sells everything needed for a pain free install.
the metal hook on the horn button would automatically touch the "spacer", so I wonder if it also serves as a ground point???
i'll try to figure something out
again, thx for all the help
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All I can say is my horn works and i didn't have to bust out the dremel at all
After fiddling around with it for hours... I think the metal hanger thing on top of the horn button is key to making the horn work.. I believe it needs to be touching the "grounding ring" somehow..
When you install the horn button, start from bottom, press it in and then work your way to the top..for some reason my horn button only works when i install it this way lol
Not really related to the horn button but another tricky part is when you first take off the stock steering wheel and lock it over to the right. Well, when the wheel locks, I think the Z shifts the wheels back over to the center slightly.. So, my steering was cocked over towards the left when i was done lol.. i had to take everything off again to realign it to the center (by turning the spinning centerhub thing once everything was off)..
--mike
After fiddling around with it for hours... I think the metal hanger thing on top of the horn button is key to making the horn work.. I believe it needs to be touching the "grounding ring" somehow..
When you install the horn button, start from bottom, press it in and then work your way to the top..for some reason my horn button only works when i install it this way lol
Not really related to the horn button but another tricky part is when you first take off the stock steering wheel and lock it over to the right. Well, when the wheel locks, I think the Z shifts the wheels back over to the center slightly.. So, my steering was cocked over towards the left when i was done lol.. i had to take everything off again to realign it to the center (by turning the spinning centerhub thing once everything was off)..
--mike
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the little metal gasket/spacer looking thing should go between the qr and the wheel. the part that sticks out is for the black ground wire.
edit. there should be a 2nd one that also goes between the hub and qr that does the same thing
edit. there should be a 2nd one that also goes between the hub and qr that does the same thing
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thanks again for all your help.
i got around to installing the Splash hub tonight. everything seems to have gone well.
one quick question....
should the hub sit flush with the steering column or should there be about a 1/4 gap or so? I ask because I don't want to take a mallet to the hub if I don't need to.
basically the hub slides on to the steering shaft pretty easily, but there is that 1/4" gap. I;m wondering if I'm suppose to use a rubber mallet and hit it a little bit to get it to go down some more.
i think no only because the threads stopped where the hub currently sits. any further down and you'll be screwing the 19mm nut on to the steering shaft.
thanks in advance for your help.
i got around to installing the Splash hub tonight. everything seems to have gone well.
one quick question....
should the hub sit flush with the steering column or should there be about a 1/4 gap or so? I ask because I don't want to take a mallet to the hub if I don't need to.
basically the hub slides on to the steering shaft pretty easily, but there is that 1/4" gap. I;m wondering if I'm suppose to use a rubber mallet and hit it a little bit to get it to go down some more.
i think no only because the threads stopped where the hub currently sits. any further down and you'll be screwing the 19mm nut on to the steering shaft.
thanks in advance for your help.
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just installed my qr w/ personal wheel. had same issues. working out issues with the horn working. I just think ground is not touching the ring. I need to double check. connection at hub is good cause wen I touch the two contact points together.
back on the topic, wen I removed the spacer, the horn button fit really snug onto the wheel. I used my thumbs to press it in. its gonna suck to try get that button off if I ever have to.
back on the topic, wen I removed the spacer, the horn button fit really snug onto the wheel. I used my thumbs to press it in. its gonna suck to try get that button off if I ever have to.