eManage Ulimate--Almost here..and MUCH IMPROVED!
02-20-2006, 05:48 PM
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Data logging
Can someone who knows the EU please give me call and help me? I have tried to install the software on my laptop to data log and when I plug it into the EU it won't connect. When I go to the communications tab I see all the options but it won't let me select any of them. I tried a few months ago before I blew my motor and sharif told me I had to install the driver. Shouldn't the f'ing driver be installed when I run the software? Anyway I went to mohadpart and downloaded the driver, but I still can't get the ***** to connect. I am beginning to hate this piece of chit........Standalone is in my near future! 305-206-3419 Jorge TIA
02-20-2006, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ZU L8R
what's your e-mail? I'll send you the driver I have
02-20-2006, 07:23 PM
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I just got off the phone with Gman....and he hasnt called back...which hopefully means he got it working! 
Installing the software can be tricky, as sometimes the Windows installation wizard has trouble finding the USB driver. The best way to insure the USB driver is installed, is to download it from here: http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html scroll towards the bottom. And then point the windows wizard to the uncompressd folder, when you first connect the EU to your laptop.
Installing the software can be tricky, as sometimes the Windows installation wizard has trouble finding the USB driver. The best way to insure the USB driver is installed, is to download it from here: http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html scroll towards the bottom. And then point the windows wizard to the uncompressd folder, when you first connect the EU to your laptop.
02-20-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I just got off the phone with Gman....and he hasnt called back...which hopefully means he got it working!
Installing the software can be tricky, as sometimes the Windows installation wizard has trouble finding the USB driver. The best way to insure the USB driver is installed, is to download it from here: http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html scroll towards the bottom. And then point the windows wizard to the uncompressd folder, when you first connect the EU to your laptop.
Installing the software can be tricky, as sometimes the Windows installation wizard has trouble finding the USB driver. The best way to insure the USB driver is installed, is to download it from here: http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html scroll towards the bottom. And then point the windows wizard to the uncompressd folder, when you first connect the EU to your laptop.
02-20-2006, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaki
Jorge, do u have windows XP on the laptop? I was told by someone that the eu software doesn't work properly on some of the older operating systems, not sure how true that is though...
02-21-2006, 04:36 AM
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We went through the same thing with ZUL8R's car. That software won't work on older versions of windows(it wouldn't work on 2000) don't ask me why they use the same basic architecture???? Glad everything is working Jorge. Are you using the AF target map to help compensate for temperature/air density changes?
02-21-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by theking
We went through the same thing with ZUL8R's car. That software won't work on older versions of windows(it wouldn't work on 2000) don't ask me why they use the same basic architecture???? Glad everything is working Jorge. Are you using the AF target map to help compensate for temperature/air density changes?
Jorge, glad you got it running. Computer problems shouldn't stop us from having fun with cars!
05-23-2006, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Glad you are pleased with the results.
2) The firware version 1.06 and beyond lets you add timing. You tuner is correct, in that the ECU still controls the timing, but the EU adds and subtracts from that. In about 2-3 weeks, Greddy is released a ROM chip upgrade, that will allow you to actually set the timing in the tables, rather than offsets. This will be a huge improvement for all of us.
2) The firware version 1.06 and beyond lets you add timing. You tuner is correct, in that the ECU still controls the timing, but the EU adds and subtracts from that. In about 2-3 weeks, Greddy is released a ROM chip upgrade, that will allow you to actually set the timing in the tables, rather than offsets. This will be a huge improvement for all of us.
So is it possible to set final (overall) timing with EU yet?
Or can it still only do offset adjustment from stock?
Second question... is everyone using 1.14 firmware? It seems to be a fairly recent release (and yes I did a search, doesn't seem like too many people have commented about 1.14).
05-23-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fito
it is still adjustment from stock and the 1.14 ,from what I have seen, what they added was more applications.
05-23-2006, 11:21 AM
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it's not like the ECU is suddenly going to advance timing thru the roof. When you tune, you tune at WOT and as long as you're not pinging, the ECU should give you the most timing it possibly can. So if you tune it that way, you should be fine.
However even with target timing, if the weather ever gets colder at all than the temp you tuned at, the air will be denser, throwing off the A/F ratio a little making it leaner. That can cause you to ping.
Best idea is to either run some race gas, and/or pull the timing a little bit extra depending on the ambient air temp when tuning.
It's just nice to be able to set the timing and you always know you're getting that amount of timing and not have to wait for the ECU to decide it's safe enough to dial it back in after detecting no knock.
it actually might be safer to let the ECU control timing because say you're knocking. Normally the ECU would start pulling timing to prevent it. But if it does, and the EU forces the timing to stay where it is anyway, that's bad...
But if you KNOW you're not going to ping cause you're running race gas and/or water injection, then it's nice to firmly set the timing to always be what you want it to be, with no interferance from the ECU.
I'm actually not sure it's such a big deal like people made out to be - myself included.
I drive my car year around where the temp changes. It's not like it's a race car that's tuned at the bleeding edge per race/temp. So instead of having a tuner retune the car every month, I'll just let the ECU make timing adjustments.
The target A/F is the big thing you want to stay where you tell it no matter what
However even with target timing, if the weather ever gets colder at all than the temp you tuned at, the air will be denser, throwing off the A/F ratio a little making it leaner. That can cause you to ping.
Best idea is to either run some race gas, and/or pull the timing a little bit extra depending on the ambient air temp when tuning.
It's just nice to be able to set the timing and you always know you're getting that amount of timing and not have to wait for the ECU to decide it's safe enough to dial it back in after detecting no knock.
it actually might be safer to let the ECU control timing because say you're knocking. Normally the ECU would start pulling timing to prevent it. But if it does, and the EU forces the timing to stay where it is anyway, that's bad...
But if you KNOW you're not going to ping cause you're running race gas and/or water injection, then it's nice to firmly set the timing to always be what you want it to be, with no interferance from the ECU.
I'm actually not sure it's such a big deal like people made out to be - myself included.
I drive my car year around where the temp changes. It's not like it's a race car that's tuned at the bleeding edge per race/temp. So instead of having a tuner retune the car every month, I'll just let the ECU make timing adjustments.
The target A/F is the big thing you want to stay where you tell it no matter what
Last edited by sentry65; 05-23-2006 at 11:27 AM.
05-23-2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
it's not like the ECU is suddenly going to advance timing thru the roof. When you tune, you tune at WOT and as long as you're not pinging, the ECU should give you the most timing it possibly can. So if you tune it that way, you should be fine.
However even with target timing, if the weather ever gets colder at all than the temp you tuned at, the air will be denser, throwing off the A/F ratio a little making it leaner. That can cause you to ping.
Best idea is to either run some race gas, and/or pull the timing a little bit extra depending on the ambient air temp when tuning.
It's just nice to be able to set the timing and you always know you're getting that amount of timing and not have to wait for the ECU to decide it's safe enough to dial it back in after detecting no knock.
In a way, it actually might be safer to let the ECU control timing because say you're knocking. Normally the ECU would start pulling timing to prevent it. But if it does, and the EU forces the timing to stay where it is anyway, that's bad...
However even with target timing, if the weather ever gets colder at all than the temp you tuned at, the air will be denser, throwing off the A/F ratio a little making it leaner. That can cause you to ping.
Best idea is to either run some race gas, and/or pull the timing a little bit extra depending on the ambient air temp when tuning.
It's just nice to be able to set the timing and you always know you're getting that amount of timing and not have to wait for the ECU to decide it's safe enough to dial it back in after detecting no knock.
In a way, it actually might be safer to let the ECU control timing because say you're knocking. Normally the ECU would start pulling timing to prevent it. But if it does, and the EU forces the timing to stay where it is anyway, that's bad...
But for now, I'll probably make little or no change to ECU timing (zero offset) so the stock ECU can detect knock and pull timing if it "wants" to, with zero offset it should be fine... at least this is what I gather from reading all I can about the EU over and over and over...
For now, my EU / autosport is wired up for intake temp sensor and coolant temp sensor, not knock sensor. I don't see a reason to hook up knock sensor unless EU is doing standalone / overall timing.
I also read that post about the 3-way switch, that's a great idea so I might put a switch between knock sensor and intake temp. I don't see why EU needs to know my intake temp especially on N/A setup.
Last edited by Wired 24/7; 05-23-2006 at 11:28 AM.
