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09-06-2005, 04:46 PM
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I've got a question or two about wiring the EU.
A) Injector grounds?
The EU has a specific wire to ground the injectors... and I don't find a ground specificaly for injectors on the harness. I've got ECM ground. TP ground, and O2 grounds... but no I/J ground. Wire it to the ECM ground???
B) Knock/Air Temp/Water Temp?
The EU has inputs for Water Temp, Intake Temp, and 2 Knock sensors. HOWEVER they are exclusive. Should I use the temps, or the knocks? Or can I hook up some aftermarket temps, and use the knocks etc...
Or if I wire it 1 and 1 what temp should I use? And what Knock should I tap?
Thanks in advance!
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A) Injector grounds?
The EU has a specific wire to ground the injectors... and I don't find a ground specificaly for injectors on the harness. I've got ECM ground. TP ground, and O2 grounds... but no I/J ground. Wire it to the ECM ground???
B) Knock/Air Temp/Water Temp?
The EU has inputs for Water Temp, Intake Temp, and 2 Knock sensors. HOWEVER they are exclusive. Should I use the temps, or the knocks? Or can I hook up some aftermarket temps, and use the knocks etc...
Or if I wire it 1 and 1 what temp should I use? And what Knock should I tap?
Thanks in advance!
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09-06-2005, 05:20 PM
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I can't remember the injector ground wire.
The temps can be hooked up in conjunction with the knock sensor. I hooked up the intake temp and the knock sensor to a 3 way rocker switch. It has 3 leads one for each wire, then an output to the eu. Then you can use either temp or knock. The knock sensor wire is pin #15 out of the ecu. It is a non-resonant type sensor with no set frequency.
The temps can be hooked up in conjunction with the knock sensor. I hooked up the intake temp and the knock sensor to a 3 way rocker switch. It has 3 leads one for each wire, then an output to the eu. Then you can use either temp or knock. The knock sensor wire is pin #15 out of the ecu. It is a non-resonant type sensor with no set frequency.
09-06-2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey_1
I can't remember the injector ground wire.
The temps can be hooked up in conjunction with the knock sensor. I hooked up the intake temp and the knock sensor to a 3 way rocker switch. It has 3 leads one for each wire, then an output to the eu. Then you can use either temp or knock. The knock sensor wire is pin #15 out of the ecu. It is a non-resonant type sensor with no set frequency.
The temps can be hooked up in conjunction with the knock sensor. I hooked up the intake temp and the knock sensor to a 3 way rocker switch. It has 3 leads one for each wire, then an output to the eu. Then you can use either temp or knock. The knock sensor wire is pin #15 out of the ecu. It is a non-resonant type sensor with no set frequency.
09-06-2005, 08:07 PM
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also: any of you ever have the issue of the rpm signal and timing signal drop rapidly and then jump back up again on the datalogging option of the ultimate?,,,
i get a spike drop at 5500rpm and 5800rpm..it drops in a space of maybe 50rpm..a very quick deviation...at first i thought possible knock,.,,but then the rpm signal should stay consistant..plus i was running 101octane with conservative timing...so i highly doubt the knock theory
i assume it is slightly misfiring? i checked the plugs, slight white deposit on the tips, nothing too abnormal..the gap is set at .035,.....any ideas? no CES light/no code...
no noticeable loss in power, but then again, it only occurs at an interval of 50rpm at most...
sorry to highjack..well this is on topic, this is an e-manage ultimate question!
i get a spike drop at 5500rpm and 5800rpm..it drops in a space of maybe 50rpm..a very quick deviation...at first i thought possible knock,.,,but then the rpm signal should stay consistant..plus i was running 101octane with conservative timing...so i highly doubt the knock theory
i assume it is slightly misfiring? i checked the plugs, slight white deposit on the tips, nothing too abnormal..the gap is set at .035,.....any ideas? no CES light/no code...
no noticeable loss in power, but then again, it only occurs at an interval of 50rpm at most...
sorry to highjack..well this is on topic, this is an e-manage ultimate question!
09-06-2005, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spdkils
I've got a question or two about wiring the EU.
A) Injector grounds?
The EU has a specific wire to ground the injectors... and I don't find a ground specificaly for injectors on the harness. I've got ECM ground. TP ground, and O2 grounds... but no I/J ground. Wire it to the ECM ground???
A) Injector grounds?
The EU has a specific wire to ground the injectors... and I don't find a ground specificaly for injectors on the harness. I've got ECM ground. TP ground, and O2 grounds... but no I/J ground. Wire it to the ECM ground???
The knock question was already answered.
09-06-2005, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
also: any of you ever have the issue of the rpm signal and timing signal drop rapidly and then jump back up again on the datalogging option of the ultimate?,,,
i get a spike drop at 5500rpm and 5800rpm..it drops in a space of maybe 50rpm..a very quick deviation...at first i thought possible knock,.,,but then the rpm signal should stay consistant..plus i was running 101octane with conservative timing...so i highly doubt the knock theory
i assume it is slightly misfiring? i checked the plugs, slight white deposit on the tips, nothing too abnormal..the gap is set at .035,.....any ideas? no CES light/no code...
no noticeable loss in power, but then again, it only occurs at an interval of 50rpm at most...
sorry to highjack..well this is on topic, this is an e-manage ultimate question!
i get a spike drop at 5500rpm and 5800rpm..it drops in a space of maybe 50rpm..a very quick deviation...at first i thought possible knock,.,,but then the rpm signal should stay consistant..plus i was running 101octane with conservative timing...so i highly doubt the knock theory
i assume it is slightly misfiring? i checked the plugs, slight white deposit on the tips, nothing too abnormal..the gap is set at .035,.....any ideas? no CES light/no code...
no noticeable loss in power, but then again, it only occurs at an interval of 50rpm at most...
sorry to highjack..well this is on topic, this is an e-manage ultimate question!
09-07-2005, 07:54 AM
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Rocker switch... Genius... Pure Genius.
It's always the simple fixes I miss.
I figured I'd just use ECM ground...
I wonder if that RPM issue is similar to what APS was seeing with the POS and thats why they went with the sheilded wire?
It's always the simple fixes I miss.
I figured I'd just use ECM ground...
I wonder if that RPM issue is similar to what APS was seeing with the POS and thats why they went with the sheilded wire?
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Sharif,
Is there a certain way to know A/F, as it pertains to volts? I hooked up the A/F input to my Innovate analog out, 0-5 volts. In my datalogger, I see voltage. Is there a way to convert the volts to A/F? Or do I need to do math? When I try the targeting, will I tell it volts or A/F?
Is there a certain way to know A/F, as it pertains to volts? I hooked up the A/F input to my Innovate analog out, 0-5 volts. In my datalogger, I see voltage. Is there a way to convert the volts to A/F? Or do I need to do math? When I try the targeting, will I tell it volts or A/F?
09-07-2005, 09:13 AM
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Sharif,
Is there a certain way to know A/F, as it pertains to volts? I hooked up the A/F input to my Innovate analog out, 0-5 volts. In my datalogger, I see voltage. Is there a way to convert the volts to A/F? Or do I need to do math? When I try the targeting, will I tell it volts or A/F?
Is there a certain way to know A/F, as it pertains to volts? I hooked up the A/F input to my Innovate analog out, 0-5 volts. In my datalogger, I see voltage. Is there a way to convert the volts to A/F? Or do I need to do math? When I try the targeting, will I tell it volts or A/F?
You can set the voltage to AF conversion with the EU.
On the innovate gauges, the voltage AF conversion is as follows.
7.35 to 22.39 AFR is 0-5V
It should display with AF in the logger. As long as the setting is correct when you defined the values for the AF sensor on the EU software setup tabs.
09-07-2005, 09:14 AM
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The LM has software to configure the volts and the A/F range it represents.
We set my brothers to 0-5v and set the range from 9.00 - 20.01 (The .01 was added by innovate for some reason.)
Get the software here...
http://tinyurl.com/dzojs
I would assume its the same for the LC1
Then we set the EU to match on the following tab...
We set my brothers to 0-5v and set the range from 9.00 - 20.01 (The .01 was added by innovate for some reason.)
Get the software here...
http://tinyurl.com/dzojs
I would assume its the same for the LC1
Then we set the EU to match on the following tab...
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09-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey_1
How much of a drop is it? Do you feel the decrease? Does it happen on every run? It might just be a logging problem.
no noticeable loss in power...and it does not happen on every run, but most (only at higher rpm--even did it when i went 40% throttle, no boost to 6000rpms--im leaning toward a signal being dropped for whatever reason)
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
350ZDCKalb has a shielded wire.
ok, i'm done shouting...so sharif, oh e-manage ultimate supreme master
, what is causing my datalogging issue?
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