Turbonetics kit, BLOWN motor, i just dont have luck with this car
12-19-2005, 03:48 PM
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w/e i didnt make this thread to get critisized on something that i spent almost 5 grand on and it doesnt work properly unless i spend 2 grand more on another ecu management and tune your right its all my fault that i expected something from a big company to work well and not have to worry bout it, yes your all right geez
12-19-2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Are you kidding me 
Over 150 TN kits have now been sold I believe and we know of less than a handful guys with blown motors. Two situations I can think of were due to owner negligence. Do you think the Emanage is **** poor as well, because hundreds of Greddy TT owners blew their motors into the gound because they didnt retune it and ran it on a base map with no supporting mods? I think its a little unfair and harsh to say its **** poor 
Nobody would say its as good as a custom tune from any of the piggybacks, but its FAR from **** poor....
Over 150 TN kits have now been sold I believe and we know of less than a handful guys with blown motors. Two situations I can think of were due to owner negligence. Do you think the Emanage is **** poor as well, because hundreds of Greddy TT owners blew their motors into the gound because they didnt retune it and ran it on a base map with no supporting mods? I think its a little unfair and harsh to say its **** poor Nobody would say its as good as a custom tune from any of the piggybacks, but its FAR from **** poor....I think any flash solution where the user is unable to tune the car themselves on a dyno well SUCKS....IMO. Not a big fan of flashes where you gotta pay dyno time to do 1 run, find out you're screwed, pay money to mail the ECU, etc etc etc and repeat vs spending 30 min and nailing the tune right then and there. And what about summer vs winter conditions? It's about as inconvenient as you can get. I'm sure all those TN people detonating on 93 octane fuel here in the winter all the sudden is a strange coincidence. I dunno, sorry for ruffling your feathers Alberto. I know you own a TN kit and are going to be putting it on sometime
I doubt most TN owners are driving with stock exhaust
people with the greddy kit blew motors because the stock tune is bad, and well, everything else. No return fuel system, no baffled/bigger oil pan, etc. But yeah, the emanage isn't the greatest thing either. It works, but the stock ECU is still fighting it and changing the overall timing and fuel around
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12-19-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
w/e i didnt make this thread to get critisized on something that i spent almost 5 grand on and it doesnt work properly unless i spend 2 grand more on another ecu management and tune your right its all my fault that i expected something from a big company to work well and not have to worry bout it, yes your all right geez
12-19-2005, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
w/e i didnt make this thread to get critisized on something that i spent almost 5 grand on and it doesnt work properly unless i spend 2 grand more on another ecu management and tune your right its all my fault that i expected something from a big company to work well and not have to worry bout it, yes your all right geez
But I learned from it. Good luck in the future with your car, get a wideband if you havent already, always check your tune after any changes in the future and watch those guages.
12-19-2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
w/e i didnt make this thread to get critisized on something that i spent almost 5 grand on and it doesnt work properly unless i spend 2 grand more on another ecu management and tune your right its all my fault that i expected something from a big company to work well and not have to worry bout it, yes your all right geez
12-19-2005, 05:23 PM
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ok random question, just if someone can give me a really close idea of how much it is to build the motor and pretty much have everything done on the car?? turbo installed and all, can someone just give me a ball park of how much it is to build it anyone?/??
12-19-2005, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
ok random question, just if someone can give me a really close idea of how much it is to build the motor and pretty much have everything done on the car?? turbo installed and all, can someone just give me a ball park of how much it is to build it anyone?/??
That includes:
Eagle rods: $570
Arias Pistons: $750
ARP head and main studs: $380
And that includes labor to pull motor, machine, install parts, and re-install motor. The upside is with that combo you are good into the high 500s
12-19-2005, 05:26 PM
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Well the ECu reflash is marginal at best specially when runnin git at 8.5 pounds which is close to the max the MAF can handle before goin ape.
How can he be blamed for installing an exhaust and assuming it woul dbe fine since it has been said various times that the kit was tested without an exhaust, how much freer can you go? so any exhaust should be more restrictive than that and therefore assumed to be safe.
The Greddy stock tune is not bad, it is very rich and safe, we have had a couple of cars run for a long time on stock boost, it is not safe if you turn the boost up though.
How can he be blamed for installing an exhaust and assuming it woul dbe fine since it has been said various times that the kit was tested without an exhaust, how much freer can you go? so any exhaust should be more restrictive than that and therefore assumed to be safe.
The Greddy stock tune is not bad, it is very rich and safe, we have had a couple of cars run for a long time on stock boost, it is not safe if you turn the boost up though.
12-19-2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Ball park...$3500
That includes:
Eagle rods: $570
Arias Pistons: $750
ARP head and main studs: $380
And that includes labor to pull motor, machine, install parts, and re-install motor. The upside is with that combo you are good into the high 500s
That includes:
Eagle rods: $570
Arias Pistons: $750
ARP head and main studs: $380
And that includes labor to pull motor, machine, install parts, and re-install motor. The upside is with that combo you are good into the high 500s
12-19-2005, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
That is a little low you have bearings, gaskets plus in the labor you woul dhave removal and reinstall of accessories, removal and reinstall of turbo kit.
12-19-2005, 05:40 PM
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can someone please direct me tom someone that i can call to order the stuff, im gonna talk to japtrix and see what they think, see if they would be able to do it for that price, im assuming i should look for a good price of like 4000 and i have my car back??? someone tell me where and who to talk to i seriously think that would be the best idea bc id rather keep the car for another year and 1/2 and for 4000 bucks im gonna have to spend extra on buying the new car ill fix this and yes drive it for a little longer, alright guys, and turbonetics(miaplaya), how bout you help me with a really good deal lol on a piggyback to tune the car lol/??? maybe? lol
12-19-2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
can someone please direct me tom someone that i can call to order the stuff, im gonna talk to japtrix and see what they think, see if they would be able to do it for that price, im assuming i should look for a good price of like 4000 and i have my car back??? someone tell me where and who to talk to i seriously think that would be the best idea bc id rather keep the car for another year and 1/2 and for 4000 bucks im gonna have to spend extra on buying the new car ill fix this and yes drive it for a little longer, alright guys, and turbonetics(miaplaya), how bout you help me with a really good deal lol on a piggyback to tune the car lol/??? maybe? lol
12-19-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The bearings aren't THAT much more dude. Total parts cost minus bearings is $1700. That leaves almost $2k for labor and bearings. SGP will do a complete assembled short block with all of the above for $2700. Are you saying it costs more then $1000 to pull and replace a block?
12-19-2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The bearings aren't THAT much more dude. Total parts cost minus bearings is $1700. That leaves almost $2k for labor and bearings. SGP will do a complete assembled short block with all of the above for $2700. Are you saying it costs more then $1000 to pull and replace a block?
12-19-2005, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
Well if it was just removal and reinstalling it then yes, but you are talking about removing the ST kit, removing the engine, removing accessories, disasembling the engine, reassembling the engine, reinstalling accessories, reinstalling the engine, reinstalling the ST kit so yes 2k in labor is low.
12-19-2005, 05:52 PM
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i called reggie today but he didnt pick up i left him a message i called him around 5 or 6 miami time, maybe thats too late i dont know ill try and call him tomm morning when i get a break, my money situation will be hurt so if reggie could help me out with something like that i would have to say that turbonetics, has out of this world customer service but not gonna get my hopes up, i am wondering one thing though, in everyones opinion is 4 grand a reasonable price to basically finish my car and get it back dont want to get overcharged, i know no one would screw me like that but im educating myself like everyone has said to do.
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Originally Posted by Z PHAT Z
Believe it or not MIA, most places I've checked to see how much to pull the and replace a block is in the range of $2000 to $2,500. That's because they have to take out the turbo accessories and re-install it.
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Originally Posted by 350zbiturbo
i called reggie today but he didnt pick up i left him a message i called him around 5 or 6 miami time, maybe thats too late i dont know ill try and call him tomm morning when i get a break, my money situation will be hurt so if reggie could help me out with something like that i would have to say that turbonetics, has out of this world customer service but not gonna get my hopes up, i am wondering one thing though, in everyones opinion is 4 grand a reasonable price to basically finish my car and get it back dont want to get overcharged, i know no one would screw me like that but im educating myself like everyone has said to do.