this is to help me decide..or take my final decission...

all in all...if you were to do FI over again...would you have gone the same route? meaning Turbonetics....if yes..what would you have done differently?


i am thinking TN tuner kit, AAM Fuel return, Fuel Pump, AAM Oil pan Spacer and lines, RC 440cc Inj, Stillen engine Oil Cooler, Nismo Thermostat, and Unichip. (reason why i chose unichip coz there is a unichip dealer/tuner 10 mins away from me)
My goal, a safe 390~400whp
Any suggestions to put me on the correct track are sincerely welcome

Thanks in advance

 

You can make that power with the standard stage 1 kit and plenum/exhaust mods. Don't waste your money buying all the aftermarket fuel system and ems parts. Do yourself a favor and wait for the stage 1.5 kit.

 

definitely wait for the stage 1.5. You'll be glad you did

 

Taurran..i appreciate your advice...nevertheless...i am convinced i dont need more power...
i am half way across the world from TN...its gonna take alot of time and effort to have my ecu shipped for a reflash...
where i am from...it gets real hot.we're talking 90+.and i dont wanna risk a stock bottom end engine coz of the heat.ive seen it happen before and would not like to experience it with my own car..
so 400whp is all i want.Safely..i am **** about it..lol...i already have a custom exhaust & gauges in my list to do along with the install..if all goes as planned that should be first week of may...

however...do you think my list is ok..anything you would add or loose?

thanks again
respect

btw..your ride is gourgeous

 

why do i have this feeling that you guys are not happy with your setups?

 

DXB350Z, not trying to put you down but I can tell you that with 400whp you'll face alot of troubles without at least building the bottom end. I know the owner of performance garage in jumaira he has greddy kit and was ok with the stock boost (around 330-350whp), once he raised the boost problems started to appear.

btw, I'm talking about the sucky conditions we have in UAE where the temp would reach 130 in the summer, just in case if any one is wondering why I'm talking about not being safe for DXB350Z's power goal. good luck anyways. ahh and I havent seen you be4 in our Z meets in Dubai, you might need to check our lil thread https://my350z.com/forum/middle-east/143038-any-z-owners-living-in-dubai.html

 

Scar...
good to see some Z owners from the same region..i know khaled too..a close friend infact..last time i was at his garage...they were building his bottom end...he told me they are doin so not due to issues but coz he wanted to up the boost a little.i believe he also installed some wild tommie cams..i drove his car with stock boost..with the motec ecu..i believe he was pushing 370whp or so.a beauty.

I only drive my Z on weekends..i have been out of the country for some time and will be out again this coming month..

well..our weather sucks..i admit..but even with a good tune you reckon it wont be safe..btw..i wont be driving it in the summer..no way.lol

thanks for the heads up scar

 

perhaps a nice alky injection kit should be in ur works? I would assume that u have access to alky, and it would furthur prevent knock in such a high temp place. wow, 130 degree's, that sucks!
at first i was like why only 400whp, then i read that. i would have to agree that anything over 340-350 would require some really, really good tuning and something better then 93 octane.

 

Like I said, if money were an option, wait until stage 1.5. Seeing where you're posting from, money might not be a concern. I'll only say that Turbonetics will be testing the upgrades as a complete system, and the setup they provide will be thoroughly tested to perform optimally in all conditions.

As far as heat is concerned, I'm no stranger to it. Here in Florida we typically have 100+ degree temps with upwards of 90% humidity. And, trust me, it kills power. I've driven my kit in these temps completely stock and hit boost hard without issues. Besides, if the reflash is dead on AFR-wise, the MAF should adjust to keep AFR's within safe ranges. You could certainly combat knock by retarding timing or richening AFR's, but that would hurt power considerably.

You might consider alternate methods of heat management that don't require a change in tune or fuel system alterations. If I were you I'd consider picking up one or more of the following: a Koyo or Stillen radiator, APS lower oil pan, an active oil cooler (stillen, etc), cryo2 intercooler sprayer, an aftermarket vented hood (Seibon VT is nice), header wrap for all exhaust piping, high temp coating for the exhaust manifolds, nismo thermostat, water/oil temp gauges.

Your list above looks good if you want to piece together your own complete kit. One thing I might suggest is skipping 440cc injectors and going straight for 550's. However, keep in mind that Turbonetics should be very thorough with their upgrades and I think you'll get the best results from the solutions they provide. I also know that you will eventually want more power. With Ferraris and Lambos driving around everywhere, you will soon be wanting to show them who's boss. When you eventually decide to build your motor and crank the boost, it will be best (power and $ wise) to go with the TN stage 2 kit.

Oh, I'm entirely happy with my turbo setup.

Much thanks.

 

I think his plan is good but I do agree that you should go with 550cc injectors instead of the 440's.
By the way, the CJM fuel system is also very nice (cj-motorsports.com).

Good luck with it.

 

If I could go back to the time right before I placed my order for all the stuff I have now on the car...

I would have done it differently, but like many things in life that just falls into "woulda, shoulda, coulda"

Turbonetics has a great kit, but boost in general can be a very costly affair... Some of us have learned this already

Honestly if I could go back I would have saved a sh*t load of money, bought some basic bolt-ons... Wheels, body kit... And called it a day, so I could worry a lot less and have a pimp ride.

Though results, feelings differ...

So like I have said before...

Turbonetics Tuner Kit - With the Walboro 255 fuel pump, 440cc injectors, 1 step colder plugs, AAM oil pan spacer, and the TurboXS UTEC (extremely popular EMS with the EVO/STI/WRX guys and now catching on in the Z/G35 world).

Turbonetics kit is purdy, and customer service goes over and beyond anyone else I ever dealt with...

And when you hear that turbo spool, or when you lift your hood and everyone comes over to see what you have and asks you all the questions... It is sweet.

But I am to poor, and can't help but think what I could have spent that money on (for the cost of my mods, tuning costs, install costs, etc.).

Oh and whatever you end up doing, if you are not doing the work... MAKE SURE YOU USE A GOOD SHOP, and a GOOD TUNER who is familiy with what ever engine management you use.

 

I'm more than happy, however you get bitten by the "bug" and you ALWAYS want more power, lol.

 

Exactly, and what is really sad...

Is that I can't drive anything less, I remember when a Acura RSX Type-S blew me away (200 HP)... And then to drive boosted 4 bangers (still none close to 350 WHP, but then to also think Honda S2000 was quick and powerful...

Then I get my Z boosted, now everything that I thought was quick and powerful just feels so slow haha.

When I drive in my friends S2000, with the pedal all the way down... I find myself bored.

 

see thats what i want because i think that s2000's are really fun to drive.

i agree that maybe bigger injectors like a set of 550's is a good idea. i think he has no choice but to get a better radiator. as far as the intercooler sprayer, same difference but the alky will be far more efficient in my opinion. i guess u would have to tune it for the alky, but its almost the same with the no2 intercooler sprayer. u still wouldnt be able to goose it without spraying the intercooler with that much heat. i guess its a matter of cost and which would be more consistent, and i would like to believe that alky has both of those beat.

 

+1

The kit is great, pulls like a mother. But it's so freakin' illegal for road use (no cats) that I'm paranoid to drive my car. I think I need to change my exhaust. The coppers seem to get rabbit ears when they hear it.

Given that I live in CA, I probably would have went with something that is CARB legal. Any other state in the US, Turbonetics all the way.

 

Thanks for all the input guys..
regarding the Radiater...the Gulf Spec 350z already comes equiped with an improved aluminum radiator..discussed this issue with a performance shop...and they suggested keep the stock one..
However..yesterday.they also recommended buying an APS TT instead of pickin and matching a kit together...he mentioned the location of the turbos in the APS produces less heat under the hood than the Single TN...
Looking at the prices...the TN with the unichip and all the supporting mods will be about $500(moreor less) cheaper than the WHOLE APS TT kit....

now after this..i am also considering the APS TT kit..at stock boost...tuned and call it a day..
we have nothing but good experience with APS products from australia coz they produce SAFARI turbos for Nissan Patrols (not available in US) as well as Landcruisers...there products are OEM spec no doubt..there turbos are commonly used here.

thanks a bunch guys for all the opinions..very much appreciated.

 

BTW...forgot to mention...here we run 98octane fuel...available everywhere.




(just trying to get my post count up...postwhore )

 

I think it's already been confirmed that the 98 octane in UAE is equivalent to american 93 octane, so you won't be pulling more power out of the car because of it.

As far as the heat issue, with the proper vented hood and thermal wrapping it becomes almost a non isssue.

Good luck with whatever choice you make.

 

[QUOTE=taurran]I think it's already been confirmed that the 98 octane in UAE is equivalent to american 93 octane?[QUOTE]


Sorry...but how is that? is there a link i am missing?

 

[QUOTE=DXB350Z][QUOTE=taurran]I think it's already been confirmed that the 98 octane in UAE is equivalent to american 93 octane?
your rating system, used much the world over, is just RON. Here in the US we use Ron+Mon/2. Our 93 is like your 98, if not 1-2pts better.