Well with all the changes I thought I'd just create a new post about everything:

Stage 1: No Change for now

Stage 1.5:
If you are upgrading from Stage 1
Unichip Q (new version of the Unichip. Tuning software runs XP/2000 OS unlike older one that uses Win95/Dos) which includes:
-Multi map function with a multi map switch
-Closed loop boost control also connected to multi map switch
-Flux Power Display which allows bluetooth access to the Unichip and 6 channel datalogging for 30 minutes via the bluetooth link to your PDA or laptop. Also allows you to switch maps via Bluetooth link OR upload entire new maps via Bluetooth. No more hunting for connectors in the dark
-100% plug and play system pre-tuned out of box for 9-10 PSI. Power output TBD but will be over 400 WHP
Fuel Return Setup (not APS style more so AAM style)
630 cc injectors
Optional water/meth injection kit that is controlled by the Unichip Q in a user definable map

If you are purchasing Stage 1.5 as a complete kit it includes the following:

Turbonetics 60-1/Stage V ceramic Ball Bearing turbo
Turbonetics Evolution wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor BOV
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
630cc injectors
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
Fuel Return system
Unichip Q with flux power display and closed loop boost control and multimap switch. Plug and play and pre-tuned.
SS304 Exhaust piping polished and mandrel bent
Black Chrome Powder Coated Aluminum intake piping
All v band exhaust clamps
All t bolt intake clamps
Case of Turbonetics TS-1 synth oil
12k mile / 12 month no fault no hassle warranty on the entire kit.
-Optional water/meth kit

Stage II: (preliminary info)
Turbonetics T66/Stage V ceramic ball bearing turbo
Turbonetics Newgen Wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor BOV (X2 or could change to something else)
750cc injectors
Fuel return system
Walbro 255 lph Fuel pump
Unichip Q with flux display, closed loop boost control, multi map, etc
Spearco Water/Meth Injection kit
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
SS304 Exhaust piping polished and mandrel bent
Black Chrome Powder Coated Aluminum intake piping
All v band exhaust clamps
All t bolt intake clamps
Case of Turbonetics TS-1 synth oil
12k mile / 12 month no fault no hassle warranty on the entire kit.

Last but not least Turbonetics/Spearco is currently working in conjunction with a prominent Z tuner on this board to release a tailored version of their water/meth injection kit. The kit will come two ways. One is obviously as a
included kit with Stage 1.5 or Stage 2. The other is as a standalone unit with its own stand alone controller. The kit is currently available as a universal kit but I told Turbonetics there was some benefit to making a tailor made kit for the Z and G. Its currently being done by a Z expert on this board and when its complete will be the only custom made water/meth stand alone kit for the Z/G.

ETAs:

Stage 1: Currently shipping
Stage 1.5: Final Stages of R&D. Release Date is TBD (most likely in a month or two)
Stage 2: Early summer
Standalone water/meth kit (universal): Currently shipping
Z/G specific water/meth standalone kit: TBD but looks like end of the month.

 

boost=crack

 

Huh? IIRC no less then 25 people have received them. It would be nice if you could have PM'd me to ask about it. But nevertheless I'll find out whats up with them and see if I can get a set overnighted to you. Can you PM me your contact info. Also could you please post your exact setup in another thread like the overboost thread. I haven't seen anyone hit 10 PSI on the STOCK exhaust before. But like I said thats a discussion for another thread.

 

what is the expect hp for stage 1.5 and 2? also any MSRP price on those?

 

The turbonetics kit uses a T3 exhaust housing? Or is it a straight T4 turbo?

 

1.5....
-100% plug and play system pre-tuned out of box for 9-10 PSI. Power output TBD but will be over 400 WHP

 

No MSRP's yet...they need to re-calculate cost on injectors and a couple other items. As for Hp... The Stage 1.5 has the potential to take the stock motor to the point of failure. RWHP and boost pressure is 100% up to how far you want to go. Out of box the tuning will likely be set to low to mid 400s. Stage 2 out of box will be 550 RWHP 540~ ft/lb @ 15 PSI. The turbo, wastegate, and injectors can take you to 700 WHP if you want to. Turbonetics is looking at doing an upgraded intercooler for Stage 2 as well. If a Stage 3 needs to be done later on thats still a chance. Most likely it would require a lot more supporting work though..

 

How much will it be to upgrade form stage 1 to 1.5?

 

Will "tuner" kits be available for those of us that already have UTEC? If so, $'s for those kits too.

Thanks.

 

Its an oversized T3...The exducer is actually .1" larger then a T4 turbine wheel while the major diamter is just .010 smaller. The current turbo runs a .73 A/R as well to give better performance in the midrange. The Stage II may include a P trim turbine and T4 turbine housing but that hasn't been decided yet.

 

I don't have final pricing yet but I should soon enough...

 

Tuner kit in regards to which stage? The Stage 1.5 is essentially a tuning package to take you to the limits of the stock motor. If you mean Stage 2 yes there will be.. I don't unfortnately have a solid price yet.

 

so now iam using unichip Q+,same as they use,if i want the Fuel Return system,630cc injectors,water/meth kit,well cost less?

 

I should have been more clear. Mossy used to sell (maybe still does) a TN "tuner" kit that didn't include injectors, flash or fuel pump.

This, imo, was great, because I'd rather not pay for engine management because I already have UTEC.

Stage 1.5, as you suggest, is essentially a "tuner" kit, but it includes Unichip Q.

Since UTEC was introduced, some of us are buying engine management systems while NA. I think it would be progressive for aftermarket turbo companies to keep this in mind as they introduce new products to the market.

 

I will talk to Turbonetics about that but I don't think that'll be an issue...

 

They are keeping that in mind. And yes the Tuner kits do still exist. If you are asking whether or not you can get the Stage 1.5 kit without the Unichip its something I will discuss with Turbonetics and see what can be done...

 

how about a price drop on stage 1

 

I wish it were that easy...

 

Im interested in just basically doing the Stage II "tuner" upgrade as I already have a UTEC but I really hope they come out with a larger IC for Stage 2...

 

The current intercooler can handle the out of box 550 RWHP number from Stage 2 no doubt about it...but to keep up with those pushing higher I'm talking to them about doing just that...