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Old May 9, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Scott,
ROFL! You're having fun messing with people with that blower picture, aren't you? Which one of your V-8s was that for?

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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aalzuhair
Good for you man yeah do it ... I hate to see someone else claim this mod.

Keep all your notes, copy of this thread, anything that shows when you started working on this mod..
Well it is going to be extremely hard to Patent an all thread stud and nut purchased from another company and threaded into a pre-existing hole.

There is not much design and tooling involved. Not to mention that parts used are not produced by the person looking to get the "patent".

No offense to Scott but Patents don't work like that.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle(Houston)
Well it is going to be extremely hard to Patent an all thread stud and nut purchased from another company and threaded into a pre-existing hole.

There is not much design and tooling involved. Not to mention that parts used are not produced by the person looking to get the "patent".

No offense to Scott but Patents don't work like that.
If you throw a bunch of chips and resistors together (all not made by you) on a PCB and end up with something that does something new, you can patent it. It's the idea that you patent. If I was the first to throw a bunch of cloth, ropes and a backpack (none made by me) together and came up with a parachute, I'm sure I could patent it. Now that I think about, that's probably how the original guy must have done it...

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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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www.invent-tech.com As seen on TV! lol
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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You guys are cheering way too early.... I would like to see how this mod turn out in 4-8 months from now. I was really discouraged when I saw the other thread regarding the weakness of the VQ35 head, but I'm pretty excited that there is somewhat of a solution to this ordeal. I hope that this will resolve the issue and push the Z into the 600whp+ range without any major issue.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
you can also see in the pic from mrc, how this area is the thinnest area for combustion to make it into the cooling system. that is a slit inbetween the cylinders that is a steam crossover.
I'm trying to figure out if this is why we have seen this as less of an issue (although present on some high # cars with sleeves) on the sleeved blocks? I believe the slit is not present with sleeves installed? Would the culprit of head lift on the sleeved blocks then be due to other possible issues such as HG failure, oem HG use, studs not torqued down enough, or simply just running too much (700 rwhp and over) power/boost?
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by driftsamurai
You guys are cheering way too early.... I would like to see how this mod turn out in 4-8 months from now. I was really discouraged when I saw the other thread regarding the weakness of the VQ35 head, but I'm pretty excited that there is somewhat of a solution to this ordeal. I hope that this will resolve the issue and push the Z into the 600whp+ range without any major issue.

the simplicity of this mod makes failure impossible. the only thing it can ever possibly do is help. i installed one side and not the other on my test head not on the car. i hit one side with a hammer, then the other. one side went "ping" the other went "thud". those of you who know these sounds, it means one side is solid and the other had movement. btw- it was the side WITH the stud installed that went "ping".
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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ya yancy, it really is a combo of things. but no one is addressing the fact that the heads themselves are lifting in between the bolts, well till now. there is options for head gaskets, sleeves, and head stud sizes, but the strength of the head has not been addressed. if you look at the facts, these other parts in other motors can hold tons of power, not in the VQ though. so other areas need to get looked at instead of the obvious if the obvious fixes don't work to the extent they should or do in other motors.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
Thats f**king awesome Scott! You gotta PM me a link to these threads when you start them lol. I just found this one and its already 4 pages long. You are one sick f**k trying to fit that 6-71 on your Z, but I like it . If anyone could figure it out, its you. I will have to get one of these kits from you for sure! Got anything else coming up that I will want to buy?
hey mike, sorry bro, thought you would have come across it, lol. ya i am looking forward to putting that huge huffer on. already got a simple manifold designed, just need to get the back and forth measurement and the rest will be able to be done in a day or 2, lol. imagine all the sounds coming from my car, yeeeehaawww!!
looks like i may be heading back to meet with scott and mike at VRT here in a week and a half. may talk with them about what they would like to see in a camber AND caster adjustable front a-arm that is all heim jointed. the trick is making adjustments with the wheel on the car and keeping costs resonable.

btw- you didn't realize it but you already reserved and got a head mod kit heading your way, lol.

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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
Scott,
ROFL! You're having fun messing with people with that blower picture, aren't you? Which one of your V-8s was that for?

hahhaa. it was going on the camaro (inprogress) then the vette, but now figured what the heck, why not. you will get to see the custom parts and be there for initial start up. it will be a crazy car.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
hey mike, sorry bro, thought you would have come across it, lol. ya i am looking forward to putting that huge huffer on. already got a simple manifold designed, just need to get the back and forth measurement and the rest will be able to be done in a day or 2, lol. imagine all the sounds coming from my car, yeeeehaawww!!
looks like i may be heading back to meet with scott and mike at VRT here in a week and a half. may talk with them about what they would like to see in a camber AND caster adjustable front a-arm that is all heim jointed. the trick is making adjustments with the wheel on the car and keeping costs resonable.

btw- you didn't realize it but you already reserved and got a head mod kit heading your way, lol.

scott
LOL kick ***! Thanks Scott. When are you heading down to Cali? I may have to go down there too then!
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Scott, I agree that this mod could only help and definitely could not hurt. I applaud you for being innovative in the approach. The hammer test is actually a very effective test for measuring how solid the head is. I think with all of the cash and parts people are spending on built motors, this cheap mod is a no brainer. I will need one, so set one aside. I have nothing to lose.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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ok, another day of testing. my car before was needing water about every 100 miles or so, this was driving like a grandma and not even getting into boost, so you could say my car was a perfect candidate for testing. my tests today included some 3rd gear roll on tire spins and just all around driving like a jerk, lol. this normally would have sent me through about 4 gallons of water. guess what? I HAVE NOT LOST A DROP!!!
i have materials for all the current orders on the way and will be shipping monday. i still truely feel this is a big step in keeping the heads seated. i'm sure others will agree as they start to get these installed. i'm getting dizzy spinning around in circles patting myself on the back, hahha.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Oh man, I was hoping to get my car back together for this weekend. I have the top of the motor pulled apart chasing down a MAJOR fuel leak (2"+ pooled up on top of the block between the heads )

Are you shipping them out in the order that you recieved payment?
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Congrad on the good work. Please keep us updated about how awesome your Z is. GOOD LUCK MODDING GUYS!!!
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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ok, im in,

what's your paypal acct again...

btw repeat customer
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
ok, another day of testing. my car before was needing water about every 100 miles or so, this was driving like a grandma and not even getting into boost, so you could say my car was a perfect candidate for testing. my tests today included some 3rd gear roll on tire spins and just all around driving like a jerk, lol. this normally would have sent me through about 4 gallons of water. guess what? I HAVE NOT LOST A DROP!!!
i have materials for all the current orders on the way and will be shipping monday. i still truely feel this is a big step in keeping the heads seated. i'm sure others will agree as they start to get these installed. i'm getting dizzy spinning around in circles patting myself on the back, hahha.
Were you experiencing water loss even after you put the new HG on or has it only stopped since you put the bolts in the heads?
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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ok, im in,

what's your paypal acct again...

btw repeat customer
pm sent
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Oh man, I was hoping to get my car back together for this weekend. I have the top of the motor pulled apart chasing down a MAJOR fuel leak (2"+ pooled up on top of the block between the heads )

Are you shipping them out in the order that you recieved payment?
i have a good sized order on it's way now. yes basically i will be going down the list of who was first and so on. there is only a few more spots left already on this second batch. yours will go out on monday. thanks for the order.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by meatbag
Were you experiencing water loss even after you put the new HG on or has it only stopped since you put the bolts in the heads?
yes my car was really bad before. then just tossed in new stock head gaskets to make a cruise and see how bad the problem really was, like warped head or just to see if the block and heads were still straight and just a gasket would cure it. well it started leaking again very soon and almost got back to where it was before i replaced them.
since doing this, i have not lost a drop and my overflow is filled about a 1/2" from the top, so it would be easy to tell if i was still puking water out. this is a great mod for anyone f/i. whether you are stock block, built motor, currently building, or currently leaking, this will be either a preventitive fix, or a current fix.
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