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Old 05-18-2006, 02:06 AM
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Do you think this latest water loss is to do with temps? or head lift?

Is there any carbon in the water?
Old 05-18-2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by XBS
Now Scott why would you be honest and post that you lost some water, even thought it was 100 degrees. That could affect your sales man what are you thinking!
cause i'm honest, lol.
Old 05-18-2006, 07:49 AM
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cause i'm honest, lol.
good thing......I've been ripped off too many times by dishonest dirty fuking rats!
Old 05-18-2006, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mchapman
Do you think this latest water loss is to do with temps? or head lift?

Is there any carbon in the water?
i'm guessing it to be mostly due to the heat. i still have the stock radiator and no aftermarket oil cooler. i started to really drive my car near the end of last summer, and the temps around here were not that high, so i never had probs. but in this 90-100 degree weather, it is very apparent now i need to do all the cooling mods i can think of. i'm currently looking at custom 3" thick rads that i will custom fit, with very large multiple push fans (5000-6000cfm!!)
before i put these studs in the motor, even at 60 degrees, i was running out of water every 100 miles or less without even being able to get into boost. so having to add a little water over about 600 miles now and hot temps and hammering on it too, shows it is definately helping. my head gasket seal was already compromised badly before installing these. someone building a fresh motor or bairily seeing combustion leak issues will get very good outcomes with this mod.
again, this is not designed to completely eliminate the issues of "head lift" from happening, this is just to help strengthen the weakest link i feel is helping create it.
Old 05-18-2006, 08:04 AM
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oh btw- i didn't see any carbon in the overflow.
Old 05-18-2006, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
oh btw- i didn't see any carbon in the overflow.
cool! In that case I don't want a refund.
Old 05-18-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by overZealous1
i'm guessing it to be mostly due to the heat. i still have the stock radiator and no aftermarket oil cooler. i started to really drive my car near the end of last summer, and the temps around here were not that high, so i never had probs. but in this 90-100 degree weather, it is very apparent now i need to do all the cooling mods i can think of. i'm currently looking at custom 3" thick rads that i will custom fit, with very large multiple push fans (5000-6000cfm!!)
before i put these studs in the motor, even at 60 degrees, i was running out of water every 100 miles or less without even being able to get into boost. so having to add a little water over about 600 miles now and hot temps and hammering on it too, shows it is definately helping. my head gasket seal was already compromised badly before installing these. someone building a fresh motor or bairily seeing combustion leak issues will get very good outcomes with this mod.
again, this is not designed to completely eliminate the issues of "head lift" from happening, this is just to help strengthen the weakest link i feel is helping create it.

oh btw- i didn't see any carbon in the overflow.
Thats great, thanks.
Old 05-18-2006, 02:44 PM
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I got mine today, gonna try and install on Sat. I'll take pics
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everybody else should be getting theres today also then. you are the furthest away in FL there.
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I am further down
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Didn't get mine, and I'm in the middle of the country. What carrier did you use?

If they don't come tomorrow I'm gonna say "*** it" and put my motor back together as is.
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Omaha Ne...didnt get mine . Friday maybe
Old 05-18-2006, 08:53 PM
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Smile Got mine. :)

Scott:

Thank's the kit arrived today. I see what you mean about the "Odd" thread.

The instructions are crystal clear.

Use the existing washer on the plug, and the copper washer provided in the kit. Got you !

Cheers Amy -
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Didn't get mine, and I'm in the middle of the country. What carrier did you use?

If they don't come tomorrow I'm gonna say "*** it" and put my motor back together as is.
they all went usps. i remember writing yours up, it is on the way.
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Originally Posted by AmyCroft
Scott:

Thank's the kit arrived today. I see what you mean about the "Odd" thread.

The instructions are crystal clear.

Use the existing washer on the plug, and the copper washer provided in the kit. Got you !

Cheers Amy -
ya, the thread pitch is odd. this stuff is made in germany!!

only remove one plug at a time and you will lose no water. well as long as the rad cap is closed, lol. went over that in the instructions.
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Got mine thursday. One question. After you torque the bolts in how much do you torque the nut down? Same as the bolt?
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Originally Posted by westpak
I am further down
And I am further down than you.
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Scott, are the allen head plugs reverse thread or something. Mine aren't coming out. Head is stripping.
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Originally Posted by ZU L8R
Scott, are the allen head plugs reverse thread or something. Mine aren't coming out. Head is stripping.
they are in there very tightly. they lock due to the seal they make with the stainless sealing washer. if you are using the perfect size allen wrench, you should have no prob. but yes they are in tight and no they are not left hand thread. if you are using a allen socket for a 3/8" drive, it would be way easier.
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Originally Posted by meatbag
Got mine thursday. One question. After you torque the bolts in how much do you torque the nut down? Same as the bolt?
i used a figure of 1/8th turn after touching bottom on the stud. this is basically to clear the rough sand casting and create a more solid seating surface. the large nut gets torqued to 50ft lbs and is a 1 1/16" socket iirc.


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