Blew motor with Turbonetics S/T..
07-25-2006, 12:49 PM
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Blew motor with Turbonetics S/T..
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So i was going on 610 east, doing about 70....i didnt gun it or punch it or anything.....when all of a sudden i heard clanking and saw some smoke. i pulled over to the shoulder when to see if i have a flat, but didnt. looked under the car, saw nothing but oil pouring from the engine. so i just waited for a tow truck...
when it finally gets towed to SGP racing, mark says, "im not surprised" then he says, "those kits have nothing but problems"....lol
so he puts it on a lift and takes off the crossmember and right under there is a 2-3 inch hole in the block. i dont have pics, sorry. but this sux....im so pissed right now all i can do is laugh......i dont know why.
i talked to mark to see what hes gotta do now and from what hes told me, its gonna be about a $7000 fix.....
these are just my opinions, but to me, it seems like with this kit its problem after problem....its actually getting to be too much. my G/F is pissed cuz we arent gonna get married sooner that what i expected because of just what happened...i gotta spend $7000.....and now, i have no car for a month, i dont even know how im gonna get to work. The z was my DD.
i think its time for me to call it quits, i havent decided yet. but when i do get my car back, i might have to let her go....
So i was going on 610 east, doing about 70....i didnt gun it or punch it or anything.....when all of a sudden i heard clanking and saw some smoke. i pulled over to the shoulder when to see if i have a flat, but didnt. looked under the car, saw nothing but oil pouring from the engine. so i just waited for a tow truck...
when it finally gets towed to SGP racing, mark says, "im not surprised" then he says, "those kits have nothing but problems"....lol
so he puts it on a lift and takes off the crossmember and right under there is a 2-3 inch hole in the block. i dont have pics, sorry. but this sux....im so pissed right now all i can do is laugh......i dont know why.
i talked to mark to see what hes gotta do now and from what hes told me, its gonna be about a $7000 fix.....
these are just my opinions, but to me, it seems like with this kit its problem after problem....its actually getting to be too much. my G/F is pissed cuz we arent gonna get married sooner that what i expected because of just what happened...i gotta spend $7000.....and now, i have no car for a month, i dont even know how im gonna get to work. The z was my DD.
i think its time for me to call it quits, i havent decided yet. but when i do get my car back, i might have to let her go....
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Why not just buy a short block for 2K. If it didnt damage the head nor the turbo you might be all good and save yourself around 2K.. It will take around 1500 to have someone piece it back together and around 700-1000 to reinstall the motor and Turbo.
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Damn dude sorry to hear about that. Thats exactly why I am against FI, especially when you have other priorities in life man.. Im in your same boat. I can justify going FI for fun,, but I cannot justify paying that much mor for a built bottom end or a new stock block cause all these kits suck...
07-25-2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by g35_anonymous
i'm sorry to hear that... good luck with everything.
i'll assume that you were running a stock bottom end... what psi were you running when car go boom.
i'll assume that you were running a stock bottom end... what psi were you running when car go boom.
i wasnt even boosting, i think i was at like 2600 rms in sixth gear, but the psi is set at 9psi....
07-25-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EM-EFER
Why not just buy a short block for 2K. If it didnt damage the head nor the turbo you might be all good and save yourself around 2K.. It will take around 1500 to have someone piece it back together and around 700-1000 to reinstall the motor and Turbo.
sgp is charging me about 2200 for labor...give or take a few....thats putting the turbo back on....never did ask how much without....
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Originally Posted by xluv2eatx
Story:
So i was going on 610 east, doing about 70....i didnt gun it or punch it or anything.....when all of a sudden i heard clanking and saw some smoke. i pulled over to the shoulder when to see if i have a flat, but didnt. looked under the car, saw nothing but oil pouring from the engine. so i just waited for a tow truck...
when it finally gets towed to SGP racing, mark says, "im not surprised" then he says, "those kits have nothing but problems"....lol
so he puts it on a lift and takes off the crossmember and right under there is a 2-3 inch hole in the block. i dont have pics, sorry. but this sux....im so pissed right now all i can do is laugh......i dont know why.
i talked to mark to see what hes gotta do now and from what hes told me, its gonna be about a $7000 fix.....
these are just my opinions, but to me, it seems like with this kit its problem after problem....its actually getting to be too much. my G/F is pissed cuz we arent gonna get married sooner that what i expected because of just what happened...i gotta spend $7000.....and now, i have no car for a month, i dont even know how im gonna get to work. The z was my DD.
i think its time for me to call it quits, i havent decided yet. but when i do get my car back, i might have to let her go....
So i was going on 610 east, doing about 70....i didnt gun it or punch it or anything.....when all of a sudden i heard clanking and saw some smoke. i pulled over to the shoulder when to see if i have a flat, but didnt. looked under the car, saw nothing but oil pouring from the engine. so i just waited for a tow truck...
when it finally gets towed to SGP racing, mark says, "im not surprised" then he says, "those kits have nothing but problems"....lol
so he puts it on a lift and takes off the crossmember and right under there is a 2-3 inch hole in the block. i dont have pics, sorry. but this sux....im so pissed right now all i can do is laugh......i dont know why.
i talked to mark to see what hes gotta do now and from what hes told me, its gonna be about a $7000 fix.....
these are just my opinions, but to me, it seems like with this kit its problem after problem....its actually getting to be too much. my G/F is pissed cuz we arent gonna get married sooner that what i expected because of just what happened...i gotta spend $7000.....and now, i have no car for a month, i dont even know how im gonna get to work. The z was my DD.
i think its time for me to call it quits, i havent decided yet. but when i do get my car back, i might have to let her go....
If you remove the kit and put it up for sale, the $$ you'll get for it should buy you a used stock motor, you'll probably not lose any more noney beyond what you've paid for this thing so far...
07-25-2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CFaddict350z
Damn dude sorry to hear about that. Thats exactly why I am against FI, especially when you have other priorities in life man.. Im in your same boat. I can justify going FI for fun,, but I cannot justify paying that much mor for a built bottom end or a new stock block cause all these kits suck...
Oh yes, the Tri-State Paranoid N/A club chymes in...
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Oh yes, the Tri-State Paranoid N/A club chymes in...
07-25-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Really sorry to hear that.
If you remove the kit and put it up for sale, the $$ you'll get for it should buy you a used stock motor, you'll probably not lose any more noney beyond what you've paid for this thing so far...
If you remove the kit and put it up for sale, the $$ you'll get for it should buy you a used stock motor, you'll probably not lose any more noney beyond what you've paid for this thing so far...
i doubt ill get much for the kit....maybe 2000, if im lucky...
07-25-2006, 01:15 PM
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i only had put about 8,000 miles on the kit and about em, i hadnt installed i yet. i had an appointment with sgp to get it finely tuned in 2 weeks. they are swamped...
07-25-2006, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cvt
i wonder why the turbo kits are going boom and not the hks and vortchs??..they are both FI...
Also there are much fewer people that have gone for higher power levels with SC's then turbos, therefore there were less chances to f. stuff up while running a blower.
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Originally Posted by CFaddict350z
Damn dog! I though you were on my side with the logical reasoning!! lol def not paranoid, very careful with my spending and investments
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Originally Posted by xluv2eatx
i only had put about 8,000 miles on the kit and about em, i hadnt installed i yet. i had an appointment with sgp to get it finely tuned in 2 weeks. they are swamped...
07-25-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
I do believe that the consensus on this issue is that the boost level of the centrifugals is dependent on RPM and they only reach full boost at redline. Also the boost rises more gradually as opposed to turbos.
Also there are much fewer people that have gone for higher power levels with SC's then turbos, therefore there were less chances to f. stuff up while running a blower.
Also there are much fewer people that have gone for higher power levels with SC's then turbos, therefore there were less chances to f. stuff up while running a blower.
still....9psi boost isn't very much. i'm surprised the VQ is so tender. i got he impression that since we only have 10:5:1 comp. then it would be great to boost.
07-25-2006, 01:28 PM
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gotcha...i forgot the centrifugals don't reach peak boost till later while the turbos come in earlier...
still....9psi boost isn't very much. i'm surprised the VQ is so tender. i got he impression that since we only have 10:5:1 comp. then it would be great to boost.
still....9psi boost isn't very much. i'm surprised the VQ is so tender. i got he impression that since we only have 10:5:1 comp. then it would be great to boost.
The answer is most likely since you didnt have your car tuned!!! Not because you have FI!! There are plenty of people running FI on their stock VQ with little to no problems.The Turbo and SC kits out there are all pretty good, Greddy, Power Enterprise, Jim Wolf Tech, HKS, etc.
Case ended running around with a 10:5:1 compression non forged pistons and rods without a tune is a great way to blow your engine up.