**I'm BACK** With a Forged Build, Twins, DD vs DJ comparison and more**
09-18-2006, 02:55 PM
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Yes we put the bumper in the back of the Lightning we trailered it with. I didnt go with the 100mm sleeves (3.8L) because of the 30% or so, reduction in headgasket mating surface. Again-I wasnt going for HUGE power, I just wanted something reliable and fast, so why do a 3.8L when it may be more prone to failure later-I dont want to find out. My set-up is more than solid and not even working at these power levels. Sharif correct me if Im wrong but the 750cc injectors were at 67% duty cycle or so, I still have room for more with a beter fuel system.
*I'm going out to shoot some vids in a few, some easy flyby's so you can hear the APS exhaust, and a WOT or two so you can hear the dumps...later tonight.
*I'm going out to shoot some vids in a few, some easy flyby's so you can hear the APS exhaust, and a WOT or two so you can hear the dumps...later tonight.
09-18-2006, 02:55 PM
#83
Originally Posted by failsafe306
Is there a particular reason you didn't want to go with the 100mm bore when doing the sleeves?
09-18-2006, 03:01 PM
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I was just wondering. Not like I'll ever be able to afford either one 
I really need to stop coming to this forum. Everytime I convince myself to trade the Z for something more practical, like a nice 4x4 Titan or something, then I come in here and read all about someones awesome numbers and how happy they are, and my thinking gets all twisted, lol. I wish my FI experience was half as good as most others on here
Back on topic....congrads Alberto!
I really need to stop coming to this forum. Everytime I convince myself to trade the Z for something more practical, like a nice 4x4 Titan or something, then I come in here and read all about someones awesome numbers and how happy they are, and my thinking gets all twisted, lol. I wish my FI experience was half as good as most others on here
Back on topic....congrads Alberto!
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09-18-2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Hey Alberto, glad you are happy with your new ride! I've been catching up from Nopi, but hopefully one of us will get a chance to post pics.
In regards to our break in process...we've found this strategy works well for us. Other shops may have other opinions, and thats fine. 100-150miles of moderate driving (1-2psi boost max), and gradually higher shift points. Change out the dino oil for new dino oil, and then straight to the dyno. I told Alberto to switch to a high quality synthetic, like Motul, after 1500-2000 miles...give or take a few.
I've been catching up from Nopi, but hopefully one of us will get a chance to post pics.In regards to our break in process...we've found this strategy works well for us. Other shops may have other opinions, and thats fine. 100-150miles of moderate driving (1-2psi boost max), and gradually higher shift points. Change out the dino oil for new dino oil, and then straight to the dyno. I told Alberto to switch to a high quality synthetic, like Motul, after 1500-2000 miles...give or take a few.
09-18-2006, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PumpedVA
Hey sharif where can I get this oil? or should I just order it from you? its about time to change mine
If you have an oil pan spacer, or upgraded oil pan, order one 5L bottle, and one 1L bottle. Otherwise, just get a 5L bottle.
09-18-2006, 03:16 PM
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Big time congratulations Alberto. Glad to see you back in the saddle. I think I'll just keep my Viper the he!! away from that beast. 
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BTW, GREAT write-up on the build...very coherent and fluid.
Anyway, looking forward to what the 1/4 mile brings with your new setup.
.BTW, GREAT write-up on the build...very coherent and fluid.
Anyway, looking forward to what the 1/4 mile brings with your new setup.
09-18-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Yes we put the bumper in the back of the Lightning we trailered it with. I didnt go with the 100mm sleeves (3.8L) because of the 30% or so, reduction in headgasket mating surface. Again-I wasnt going for HUGE power, I just wanted something reliable and fast, so why do a 3.8L when it may be more prone to failure later-I dont want to find out. My set-up is more than solid and not even working at these power levels. Sharif correct me if Im wrong but the 750cc injectors were at 67% duty cycle or so, I still have room for more with a beter fuel system.
*I'm going out to shoot some vids in a few, some easy flyby's so you can hear the APS exhaust, and a WOT or two so you can hear the dumps...later tonight.
*I'm going out to shoot some vids in a few, some easy flyby's so you can hear the APS exhaust, and a WOT or two so you can hear the dumps...later tonight.
So are you running any kind of fuel return???
09-18-2006, 03:29 PM
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uh oh!! the cats outta the bag finally!!!
wooo hooo!!
i was wondering where my props were man
jk
anyways, congrats!!
let the nutswingin continue....
oh yeah, what exhaust you running??
btw, i have W Th F S S off so i might have my car done by then, just to keep ya in check
wooo hooo!!
i was wondering where my props were man
jkanyways, congrats!!
let the nutswingin continue....
oh yeah, what exhaust you running??
btw, i have W Th F S S off so i might have my car done by then, just to keep ya in check
09-18-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
So are you running any kind of fuel return???
Alberto, the UTEC duty cycle values are a bit buggy. Based on my calculations of the max IPW's, the duty cyles are about 82% at redline...with the low fuel pressure we are using. Nice and safe. You can squeeze a lot more fuel out of the 750cc injectors, by running 50-60psi of fuel pressure, but it was not needed for this setup.
09-18-2006, 03:58 PM
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Sweet that you've got your car back. What 750cc injectors are you using (I'm not familiar with the AAM fuel system, and if they're included in the AAM system).
Also, do you have the dynojet run files? If not, what were the uncorrected dynojet numbers? Uncorrected DJ numbers compared to uncorrected DD numbers would be the most valid comparison between the two imho . My car was 20whp higher with STD correction than uncorrected numbers, in actually quite modest weather conditions even. STD correction almost always serve to inflate the numbers, and thus makes the difference between DJ and DD numbers seem more drastic than it really is.
Also, do you have the dynojet run files? If not, what were the uncorrected dynojet numbers? Uncorrected DJ numbers compared to uncorrected DD numbers would be the most valid comparison between the two imho . My car was 20whp higher with STD correction than uncorrected numbers, in actually quite modest weather conditions even. STD correction almost always serve to inflate the numbers, and thus makes the difference between DJ and DD numbers seem more drastic than it really is.
09-18-2006, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Sweet that you've got your car back. What 750cc injectors are you using (I'm not familiar with the AAM fuel system, and if they're included in the AAM system).
Also, do you have the dynojet run files? If not, what were the uncorrected dynojet numbers. Uncorrected DJ numbers compared to uncorrected DD numbers would be the most valid comparison between the two imho. My car was 20whp higher with STD correction than uncorrected numbers, in actually quite modest weather conditions even.
Also, do you have the dynojet run files? If not, what were the uncorrected dynojet numbers. Uncorrected DJ numbers compared to uncorrected DD numbers would be the most valid comparison between the two imho. My car was 20whp higher with STD correction than uncorrected numbers, in actually quite modest weather conditions even.
09-18-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
RC Engineering Injectors, no injectors are included with AAM system. Uncorrected was 517whp low boost-dont recall TQ, high boost was 567whp...we did STD vs STD 5th gear pull on both dyno's...
Oh I see. I didn't know that the DD had STD correction available, I've never been on or around one of those, just DJ, Mustang and dynapack. Looks like your conditions were closer to standard anyways so it wasn't as big a deal as it was on my dyno.
Must be nice to have the car back, I know how it feels to be without your fun car for a long time.