Let me start by saying this is not a performance issue, hands down any TT set up will out HP a Stillen all day long. My needs are for a daily driver, light to light torque snapping, car that has less down time than trans-atlantic 747.

I have recently posted some comments about TT set up that has gotten me into small, (he said she said) trouble. My comments, opinions, experiences are as follows:

Everyone that owns a TT set up or high HP SC setup (ATI, HKS, modded Vortech, ect) describes the experience as a pain in the butt, money pit, headache, and that their cars are always in the shop due to blown (stock and built blocks) or some sort of maintenance. To clarify further, talking to anyone running more than 380RWHP?

Now as far as my experiences,research, opinions and beliefs for the Stillen SC set up goes. It virtually maintenance free other than squeeky blets and an occasional oil change for the cooler? Yes it doesn not push 450WHP, but for a daily driver that sees 6500 RPM on a regular (everytime I am in the car )basis...it this the solution of choice?

Please explain some of the pros and cons of your experience and any recommendations, for those of us who want to play, just not with MIKE TYSON.

 

Its a great choice for daily driver, cept the fugly hood. Rumor has it that VRT is working on a twin screw supercharger. Why don't you call them up to confirm? I'd rather wait for that. It also should fit under your hood.

 

They willbe getting a call ASAP.

thanks bro...I love this forum

I drive a G , so the hood is a bit more appealing than the Box of Chicken looking one for the Z. lol

 

allright man you lured me in.so in the 26,000 miles with the stillen i have had no mechanical problems at all....nothing....nada.i have had to replace the one 6 rib belt once,ive replaced the small 4 rib belt 3 times.btw its easy as crap to replace the belts.the only failure was when i went to stage 4,the new ss box failed in 3 days.stillen next day aired the new box and all has been well since.and the hood dosent look bad on the g.

 

[QUOTE=superchargedg]allright man you lured me in.so in the 26,000 miles with the stillen i have had no mechanical problems at all....nothing....nada.i have had to replace the one 6 rib belt once,ive replaced the small 4 rib belt 3 times.btw its easy as crap to replace the belts.the only failure was when i went to stage 4,the new ss box failed in 3 days.stillen next day aired the new box and all has been well since.and the hood dosent look bad on the g.
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SUPA G for President!
I didnt have sex with that lady...but I wanted too!

 

[QUOTE=4SHIZZIL G-SPOT]your too funny.

 

I ran a stillen stage 3 for one year... It was a self install and never had one problem. Great for a daily driver and when you want to sell it no one will be affraid to take it off your hands.

 

Thanks EM, I got blasted for saying TT's were a head ache. Did you go TT, or did you back to N/A after you sold the Stillen SC?

 

Dam the G's are sexy mofoes!

 

I went with full bolt-on/cammed for about 6 monthes. <--Way more headaches then having just the stillen.
Now I have Greddy TT with a fully built motor.

 

If you were to give advise to some of the newer guys here. Would you recommend saving for the built block first or going Greddy TT on a stock block as the first FI mod???

All my buds have popped their stock blocks running 9psi (or greater) with air fuels so rich, your clothes smell with those 650+ injectors!

I will leave you alone after this one. I guess I should actually do some work today at work...lol.

Thanks in advance.

 

i will say if i had to do it all over again i would have a jwt setup.but back in 2003 there was really nothing to choose from.yea i could have put on the engine blowing ati procharger or the greddy twins that were also killing motors back then.but know there are so many choices that are reliable to a point.

 

I dont think most ppl know what they are getting into when they modify their cars. Attention to details is going to make or break a modded car.

As for FI kits, ive owned the ATI for 8 months and the APS for 16 months, the only extra maintence the ATI req was changing the SC's oil. If everything was installed PERFECTLY and tuned properly, you should have no problems what so ever with either kits as long as you run the power it was designed for.

Its when something was not perfectly installed, or fixxed in time, is when problems start to rear their ugly heads.

Maintenance, as with any high powered car, your going to go through brakes pads, your going to eat more oil, and you should clean your filter more often because performance filters dont stop smaller particles like paper filters.

 

No way man. I'm glad that you're asking these questions, as I am still trying to decide on my FI route.

 

I know alot of things about FI, but never act like I am God. Super G has many miles on his car and I am over 30 and feel that our driving conditions are similar. Not like an 18 year old...lol.

I going to look into a loan for the Stilen, that hood is sweet in my Old School Mustang background, Rednecked Opinion.....lol. I said mustang..lol.

 

Doesnt matter if its a Stillen, or any TT kit, on a stock block any FI is a headache at some point. From boost leaks (turbos) to slipping, squeeky belts (which many S/C owners downplay) there will always be issues. Look @ Keiths awesome set-up, while it may not have blown he has turned a wrench for one reason or another, if he didnt have the skills to work on his car/set-up all the times he mentioned- that would be $$$ spent at a shop fixing issues. You also have to take into account the type of driving people in different set-ups are doing. Most turbo guys track their cars (1/4) most S/C guys do it every once in a while or never. I guarantee you I could get in a Stillen Stage 1 on an otherwise stock Z, drive it like I drove my TN set-up and that b!tch would blow. This is silly, there is no better/safer set-up overall, each person has to decide what is best for them. The Turbo vs S/C in regards to power, powerband, reliability, maintenance has been discussed to death on these forums.

 

yea you are 100% percent correct bert.i have had my share of squeaky belts and luckily for me i can repair just about everything on my car myself.

and what i said about the ati and the greddy is from the experiences of all the very early kits that had no timing control at all,which of course lent its hand at blowing motors.all the kits out now are safe as long as a good tune is done.

and bert if i drove my car the way you do,it probably would have blown up a while back. but just remember how this old man drives.

 

What's silly my friend, is paying 40K for a G35 and driving it like you drive your cars. And I add that you have blown an engine with an Turbo set up. Why wouldnt you give good advice to others, to prevent them the painful feeling you felt when that engine stopped turning? Agreed, that changing belts cost additional time and money (a little money I add), but compaired to what you shelled out after blowing your motor, it isnt even close. Plus you did the work yourself for the most part (from what I hear). Most guys on the forum cannot. I could, but most could not. I simply dont have the time. The adverage person that change a flat tire, can change a belt, Even in the rain off the side of the road on the highway if needed to. Blowing a engine....call AAA homie! At 750 a month (with insurance), thats not worth it to me.

I dont get why this is such a sensitive subject for the FI TT guys. All I want you all to say is the simple fact that a Stillen SC is 10 times more reliable and less headache than any TT set up, plus you dont need 15K in supporting mods! Injectors, clutch,suspension, fuel return, ect. (now some are not a must, but you all get my drift). I said drift again...lol JWT might be breaking new grounds in turbo reliability for the G and Z, still no one has proven thus far that turbos are reliable or has less maintenance than a Stillen? All of you TT guys say the same thing....with FI, there comes problems...yet two Stillen owners say that is rock solid. I dont want problems, if so I would like to minimize the chance and frequency of problems. Its that simple... Stillen SC. Too bad the hoods are so big for the Z, but us G owners, who are a different breed (different drivers) than Z owners can buy it without the ugly duckling factor.
G owners appreciate and take of our 40k sleds a littel better than the Z guys, this is my observation, dont hang me for saying such.....lol.

If you guys want to track your cars, take out the seats, exhaust, get in internal fuel cell, remove the door panels, spare tire, stereo, ac, nav and save LB's. Then you wont have to make so much power to go so fast. Like I mentioned above...DAILY DRIVERS, NOT TRACK CARS!

 

I gave you honest a$$ advice and my opinion-if you dont agree with it, thats too bad. If you want me to suck your internet **** and say "yes you are right, Stillens dont blow" (and they have, and do) then find somebody else. I tell EVERYBODY that asks me, weather you go Stillen, Greddy, Vortech it doesnt matter 300whp or 480whp on a stock block, be prepared to build. I dont want people to go through what I did, thats why I post about everything I do on these forums-obviously you havent been in here much. And the reason you dont see more Stillen blowing is because there are much less Stillens than any other S/C, turbo kit out there. The whole point of you starting this is because you want to justify running a Stillen kit on your G-you want people to agree with you. I dont so Im a bad guy?

 

And of course a 300whp set-up is more reliable than a 400+whp set-up with TQ to match, thats a no brainer-whats the point of this post again??? The further you go from stock, the more you push the limits the more chance you have of something bad happening, this is nothing new to any of us-well except maybe you...