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Lol...had to chime in...
My old Vortech setup was running was running 13.5 psi on a stock block...I didn't bend any rods, but I did burn out piston rings on one of my cylinders; Kyle from IPP confirmed it when I had him tear down my old block....that being said, I did have a Revup so I don't know if the ring failure was due to the psi or the inherent issues with the Revup...
I do find it interesting that one can gain so much whp with only 2 psi added from my old setup (up to 16.2 psi), but then, my new Vortech setup did change significantly...
Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight
If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.
Also, if you are stil using the 93" belt on a non-rev, you should call vortech ASAP and get the revised pulley setup and run the much shorter serp belt.
My old Vortech setup was running was running 13.5 psi on a stock block...I didn't bend any rods, but I did burn out piston rings on one of my cylinders; Kyle from IPP confirmed it when I had him tear down my old block....that being said, I did have a Revup so I don't know if the ring failure was due to the psi or the inherent issues with the Revup...
I do find it interesting that one can gain so much whp with only 2 psi added from my old setup (up to 16.2 psi), but then, my new Vortech setup did change significantly...
Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight
If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.
Also, if you are stil using the 93" belt on a non-rev, you should call vortech ASAP and get the revised pulley setup and run the much shorter serp belt.
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stock belt should fit 1 sized smaller pulley than it came with if hte belt isn't worn out. So if 3.33 is stock for that system then you'll still be ok with a 3.12 on the belt size. I would just use the stock vortech belt for a test fit then if you run out of belt tension you can get hte next size smaller. I just went to napa and got a Gates belt from them. They keep almost every size in stock and it's half the price vortech sells them for.
hey, while you're waiting you might as well look for a stock block somewhere. You can pick them up online for 500ish so it would be cheaper than using your own engine for a core. Core is 1500$ so you'll be saving money technically. Then you can have that built while you're still driving your car and that reduces downtime. It also keeps your stock engine in your garage for a backup.
hey, while you're waiting you might as well look for a stock block somewhere. You can pick them up online for 500ish so it would be cheaper than using your own engine for a core. Core is 1500$ so you'll be saving money technically. Then you can have that built while you're still driving your car and that reduces downtime. It also keeps your stock engine in your garage for a backup.
yeah.. if and when i decide to do that.. i think your right. i will just get another stock block and build it up but well see how it goes.
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^^^^^^^^^^ I think that guy making 13 psi has the T Trim Blower. Maybe he bought it used? I just got the T Trim blower so ill post numbers soon.
I put down 409 with the 2.87 on a rev up kit with the base blower. headers test pipes stillen y and stock exhaust
I now have this in addition to the T Tim
Fast Intenstion Extreme true dual exhaust Stillen Y is gone!
WB 255
650cc
A buddy of mine had a completely stock car but had the T-TRIM with a 2.87 pulley and made 14psi 385 on a dynodynamic (lowest HP nubered dyno in our area) and 350RWTQ. his dad has a GT3 that he claims he ran down after a 1 or 2 second jump.
I think with my set up I will be pushing 11.5-12psi with the TTrim and 650s/walbora etc.
Ill let you all know whats up...
FYI I just bought an oil consumption longblock today because 12psi is still a lot...cant use the word safe, however I agree with str8dum1 is all about the TQ
I have heard of a 4 door 6mt TTrim SC out running all of the stock block TT kits on the top end. I have sence followed that model. LOL
Greddy TTs give me the hardest time..APS TT...not so much! LOL
I put down 409 with the 2.87 on a rev up kit with the base blower. headers test pipes stillen y and stock exhaust
I now have this in addition to the T Tim
Fast Intenstion Extreme true dual exhaust Stillen Y is gone!
WB 255
650cc
A buddy of mine had a completely stock car but had the T-TRIM with a 2.87 pulley and made 14psi 385 on a dynodynamic (lowest HP nubered dyno in our area) and 350RWTQ. his dad has a GT3 that he claims he ran down after a 1 or 2 second jump.
I think with my set up I will be pushing 11.5-12psi with the TTrim and 650s/walbora etc.
Ill let you all know whats up...
FYI I just bought an oil consumption longblock today because 12psi is still a lot...cant use the word safe, however I agree with str8dum1 is all about the TQ
I have heard of a 4 door 6mt TTrim SC out running all of the stock block TT kits on the top end. I have sence followed that model. LOL
Greddy TTs give me the hardest time..APS TT...not so much! LOL
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^ nice car bro. Yeah i have the V2 and not the new V3.
I made those #'s on a dynometer... IDK.
Anyways, getting retuned with a bunch of new stuff.. well see what my #'s are after that.
I made those #'s on a dynometer... IDK.
Anyways, getting retuned with a bunch of new stuff.. well see what my #'s are after that.
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yeah its fun enough with the stock block. I am just buying a bunch of oil consumption motors and then blow them up having fun... I have a little blow by now and Im like...whatever! lol
I dont daily drive (I dont ever drive) my car now so oil consumption is the least of my worries. Add with the oil pan spacer I drive for at least 1000 miles with no worries with boost. lol
thanks, not trying to thread jack...Work Varianza T1s 20x9.5F(255/30) and 21x10.5 (295/25)
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Vortech V-1 Si-Trim Supercharger
Ideal for latest generation of improved breathing, high-power street and strip engines. Vastly improved flow and efficiency at high boost levels, providing completely new levels of power gain.
Max Speed: 58000 RPM
Max Boost: 21 PSI
Max Flow: 1050 CFM
Max Power: 725 HP
Peak Efficiency: 75%
Vortech V-1 SCi-Trim Supercharger
Straight cut spur gear. Available with straight or curved discharge.
Max Speed: 55000 RPM
Max Boost: 26 PSI
Max Flow: 1200 CFM
Max Power: 825 HP
Peak Efficiency: 73%
Vortech V-1 T-Trim Supercharger
The supercharger of choice for street/strip vehicles with modified engines. Fits engines up to 825 horsepower. Available with straight or curved discharge and clockwise or counterclockwise rotation.
Max Speed: 55000 RPM
Max Boost: 26 PSI
Max Flow: 1200 CFM
Max Power: 825 HP
Peak Efficiency: 73%
if I am wrong someone please correct me. I love this thread....lol.... but I think the SC vs the T is that the T has full boost at like 2K rpm vs the SC still has the same Si gradual increase with PRMs?
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T trim doens't have "full boost" at 2k.
it's rpm dependent like all other superchargers. It builds boost faster than others by design but still has a progressive boost curve.
it's rpm dependent like all other superchargers. It builds boost faster than others by design but still has a progressive boost curve.
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http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=157
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Guys should i get the 93" belt or the 93.5" belt (that came with kit) for the 3.12?
Napa part #'s
25-060930 = 93 inch belt
25-060935 = 93.5 inch belt
Unless you know of a better belt.
TX
Napa part #'s
25-060930 = 93 inch belt
25-060935 = 93.5 inch belt
Unless you know of a better belt.
TX
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napa belts are rebranded gates belts. work great.
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wow ur going to akuma.. thats like 15 min from my house.. i was looking for them to tune my z i got a 03 with bolt ons and cams with a vortech with the 3.33 im using osiris though and i doubt he tunes for that.. im currently redlining at 5800 rpms since my maf is maxed out.. i made 377whp tho at 5800 .. do u think john tunes osiris..?ivve heard that hes a pretty well known tuner .. how is he with zs and gs forged.. is he just as good as he is with the stis? bc i heard subaru is his real profession
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wow ur going to akuma.. thats like 15 min from my house.. i was looking for them to tune my z i got a 03 with bolt ons and cams with a vortech with the 3.33 im using osiris though and i doubt he tunes for that.. im currently redlining at 5800 rpms since my maf is maxed out.. i made 377whp tho at 5800 .. do u think john tunes osiris..?ivve heard that hes a pretty well known tuner .. how is he with zs and gs forged.. is he just as good as he is with the stis? bc i heard subaru is his real profession
I would give him a call. Tell him i sent you.. he likes us G/Z guys. or just email him:
John@AkumaMotorSports.com
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stock size should work fine for a pulley 1 size smaller than stock. it did on mine at least. If you know 93" would fit then i would use it. I'm not sure how much slack is there with the 93.5 so i cant say if a 93 will work.
napa belts are rebranded gates belts. work great.
napa belts are rebranded gates belts. work great.
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lol at your location. I drive through there all the time man. Stayed at a hotel right off 70 and went to that club/bar right there....lol picked up a few chickas with my boy...lol I am from Alton, IL, the Lou is my roots!
thanks, I had a buddy who had the t trim on and the bypass feature (shhhhhhhh) that I get at 4500rpms he gets at like 2K rpms.... he really didnt know too much about cars though. lol
just got my bracket back from the shop..they said 3 weeks until they could get me in, so I am dropping it back in myself.
look for blown motor thread soon. I just picked up that long block too...DOH! I think the 2.87 and the T Trim will be a beast but short lived.
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