RBlover69

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werd noones addressing his statement head on for what it is. LOL the people who are contesting it really lol.


you are the last dragon and you posses the power!!!

Gman2004

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There's to many big dicks on this site that think the world revolves around drag racing. I may not know as much as others about how chit works on my car, but big fuking deal. I can afford to mod my car and that's all I need. What you need to be a fuking car/tuning guru to drive a modded car now? Fuking harlious! I'll spend the extra $$ on my mods to do it right from the get go while others put together a half *** set up. My ***** are big enough that I can afford to spend the extra $$. If you ain't got no money take your broke **** home.

RBlover69

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Hey whats wrong with being blessed and drag racing brotha, ....much better then having having a twig and big berries dawgs. Lighten up man aint noone in here the dark force. Its just a talk .


and aint nothing wrong with saving money going another route. U can have a lesser setup and not blow up and have a 25k setup and go boom. So i mean obviously this route is different from yours.

taurran

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Good game. I think you've revealed the basis of your argument with this post.

You don't have to be a tuning guru to mod the car, but you should have a little knowledge to go online and start calling bull**** on tuning shops that ARE car/tuning gurus.

That's what's wrong with this site. Too much money too little knowledge. One reason I like what Jeremy is doing is because he doesn't simply take advantage of those with too much money and lacking car knowhow. He's offering options for those who know what they're getting into but may have to watch what they spend.

Perhaps we should take a hint from the Honda community where guys are able to build 700hp 4 bangers for a few grand because they dug into their motors and found out how to REALLY make power with very little. I give those guys more respect than anyone who thinks throwing piles of money at a shop and not knowing how their shiny new high hp car works is "tuning".

Apologies if everyone's *****/wallets aren't big enough for you.

Zridder19

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+1 ^

Alberto

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Funny mine ran lean into the 12's with 9psi. This thread FTW

doug

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Craig i believe if you feel so strongly about this.. you shouldn't run a RFS at all with your build..

according to Jeremy's theory.. you should be able to run 1000 cc injectors or 750 CC injectors on your build without a RFS

taurran

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Install issue.

I've seen numerous running pig rich, and ones like mine who ran a nice 11.5:1 afr to redline at 9psi.

Obviously it's not all about AFR's though, because cars with perfect AFR's and ones with full fuel return systems and tunes will blow up eventually.

Gman2004

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What basis? I may not know as much as you know, but I know that just because of couple of cars are running fine for 3-6 months don't not make it fact that not running a RFS the way it should be done.


Well most of the shops that I've worked with including SGP (which I hate) never pushed product on me. You guys need to stop bashing the other vendors on this site. You're insuating that they are only selling RFS because they make money on them.

Gman2004

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+1. Why not try knew things since you like to save money and make power by digging into the engine.

taurran

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I'm sure I could, but I'd prefer to run the smaller injectors and the return system just because I don't want to get too radical with the fuel system. In my case, I'm attempting to test the limits of the turbo/piping configuration and I'd rather focus on that than tweaking around the fuel system.

Jeremy said he could try it on AJ's car so I'll leave that to them.

doug

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i am curious to see how well this will work

Gman2004

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In other words you don't want to take a chance not running a RFS.

taurran

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We're talking about stock blocks in this thread, remember?

Not that I don't want to take a chance, is that I'd rather focus on the other aspects of the build. I won't argue that as you go up in power the critical aspect of fuel pressure becomes more important.

So, it's not about "chances", it's about exploring the options when it comes to compressor/turbine sizing and piping configuration. I'd rather not spend time tweaking with the fuel system when I can run 650's and a basic RFS and get on with more important things. Get it?

taurran

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My point exactly. You really have/had none.


I never once bashed vendors on this site, as I'd prefer to stay out of that argument. I have in the past stated that many push the RFS options because of ease of tuning and not wanting to deal with the hassles of tweaking a returnless system and tuning.

I still maintain that the returnless fuel system can be used to make power, as we see here.

ZU L8R

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Guys, please keep this on topic and about stock block cars. Nobody is talking about high hp built motors cars here. Stop the bickering and acting like children.

doug

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why wouldn't we talk about built motors when Jeremy first made the built motor statement?

taurran

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I think he just added it in there to illustrate that he had a number of cars running returnless systems. You guys have just grabbed onto that small phrase and blown it out of proportion. I'm assuming it's because the argument concerning stock blocks has no validity and you're derailing the thread to the subject of built motors.

ZU L8R

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read post # (hold up let me look for it), here it is #1. If that doesn't work, try the title of the thread.

doug

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well

i am just going off that