Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

Update on the Brian Crower Stroker kit.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-02-2008, 05:16 AM
  #181  
Kwame
New Member
iTrader: (78)
 
Kwame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 5,219
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by __jb
I was very surprised to read that the pistons had to be notched and the rods also ground on in the BC kit. That is almost beyond belief to me. I would not accept grinding on rods with a common grinder as an acceptable method of engine building.
My engine builder is waist deep in my build and it should be done pretty soon. He has not made any mentioning of having to notch the piston or rods. In fact he commented on how much of a well made piece he thought the entire BC Stroker Kit was.

The IP billet girdle looks like a quality piece. Hopefully it would eliminate any rod clearance issues with either kit. Anyone use one of these yet? I suspect IP's green Z has one along with the BC stroker kit.
I don't think we will need it for my NA build, my engine builder informed me that if we were going to throw tons of boost at my setup than he would advise me to use the IP piece.

So, anyone installed either of these kits in the last six months? I'm especially interested in NA installations, but any stroker installation information would be cool... also 100mm stock stroke installations.
What T.V. commercial is that again were they keep repeating the phrase "We're working on it?' Well thats us.
Old 01-02-2008, 05:43 AM
  #182  
Dynosty
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (27)
 
Dynosty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by __jb
This is a great thread with a lot of good information on the two existing stroker kits, BC and GTM. It's been six months since the last post in this thread, so it's a good time to see if anyone else has installed one of these kits.

I was very surprised to read that the pistons had to be notched and the rods also ground on in the BC kit. That is almost beyond belief to me. I would not accept grinding on rods with a common grinder as an acceptable method of engine building.

The IP billet girdle looks like a quality piece. Hopefully it would eliminate any rod clearance issues with either kit. Anyone use one of these yet? I suspect IP's green Z has one along with the BC stroker kit.

So, anyone installed either of these kits in the last six months? I'm especially interested in NA installations, but any stroker installation information would be cool... also 100mm stock stroke installations.
We have built a number of strokers now, and you do not have to touch the rods or pistons. The BC stroker is a very nice package, and we have it down to very minimal block clearancing now. Our billet girdle takes care of the girdle clearance problem, but more importantly adds strength to the assembly, both for power and high rpms.
Old 02-04-2008, 11:11 PM
  #183  
__jb
Z + Rear Seat
iTrader: (3)
 
__jb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: St.Pete,FL
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does the BC kit still require the oil squirters to be removed?
Old 02-05-2008, 04:57 AM
  #184  
Kwame
New Member
iTrader: (78)
 
Kwame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 5,219
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by __jb
Does the BC kit still require the oil squirters to be removed?
Yes, but any good engine builder knows how to compensate for that.
Old 02-05-2008, 09:04 AM
  #185  
__jb
Z + Rear Seat
iTrader: (3)
 
__jb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: St.Pete,FL
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Kwame@z1
Yes, but any good engine builder knows how to compensate for that.
Thanks. Not having oil squirters would not be a deal-breaker for me, although my car will be a daily driver like yours. Did IP fit up and assemble your shortblock?

I'm trying to find the technical specifications for the two stroker kits. Do you have it? I'm mainly looking for the bore, stroke, and rod length for both the BC and GTM kits.

I thought I used to have a link to the GSM 4.2L stroker kit but I can't seem to find it now. Maybe I need to look through their 3.8L stroker kit post again. I can't believe GTM doesn't have a web site yet.

Thanks for all your info... I keep waiting to see that link in your signature go active!
Old 02-05-2008, 10:21 AM
  #186  
GTM
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (12)
 
GTM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,189
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by __jb
Thanks. Not having oil squirters would not be a deal-breaker for me, although my car will be a daily driver like yours. Did IP fit up and assemble your shortblock?

I'm trying to find the technical specifications for the two stroker kits. Do you have it? I'm mainly looking for the bore, stroke, and rod length for both the BC and GTM kits.

I thought I used to have a link to the GSM 4.2L stroker kit but I can't seem to find it now. Maybe I need to look through their 3.8L stroker kit post again. I can't believe GTM doesn't have a web site yet.

Thanks for all your info... I keep waiting to see that link in your signature go active!

Here is the thread with information on our stroker kits (https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224931). Our website will be launched on March 1st, we are just wrapping things up on the site it is almost complete.

Thanks!

-George
GT Motorsports
Old 02-05-2008, 10:55 AM
  #187  
InjectedPerf
Sponsor
Injected Performance
iTrader: (15)
 
InjectedPerf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 636
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by __jb
Thanks. Not having oil squirters would not be a deal-breaker for me, although my car will be a daily driver like yours. Did IP fit up and assemble your shortblock?

I'm trying to find the technical specifications for the two stroker kits. Do you have it? I'm mainly looking for the bore, stroke, and rod length for both the BC and GTM kits.

I thought I used to have a link to the GSM 4.2L stroker kit but I can't seem to find it now. Maybe I need to look through their 3.8L stroker kit post again. I can't believe GTM doesn't have a web site yet.

Thanks for all your info... I keep waiting to see that link in your signature go active!
We did not assembly Z1's shortblock. As far as losing the oil squirters for a daily driven car, I wouldn't sweat it. Wongy's G35 is driven everyday and he is running the 4.15L BC Stroker Kit.
Old 02-06-2008, 05:48 AM
  #188  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

sorry for that Doug!


_jb - we have our own engine builder. Same person has done all our engines for the past 16 years.

The BC VQ35 stroker can take you up to a maximum of 4.15 liters (depending on the bore piston you specify - 4.15 liters requires 100mm bore), and includes your choice of 88mm or 86.4mm Stroke Billet 4340 Crank, Forged 4340 Rods, Custom CP Pistons, rings, pins, and locks, rod bolts, ). You will also need to purchase aftermarket sleeves if you intend to run more than 3.8 liters of displacement.
Old 02-06-2008, 07:55 AM
  #189  
__jb
Z + Rear Seat
iTrader: (3)
 
__jb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: St.Pete,FL
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
sorry for that Doug!

_jb - we have our own engine builder. Same person has done all our engines for the past 16 years.
Sorry, I should have figured you would both use the same machine shop. I didn't know if these were personal cars or shop cars. You probably have your own connection to get the kits, too. (Doug = Kwame?)

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
The BC VQ35 stroker can take you up to a maximum of 4.15 liters (depending on the bore piston you specify - 4.15 liters requires 100mm bore), and includes your choice of 88mm or 86.4mm Stroke Billet 4340 Crank, Forged 4340 Rods, Custom CP Pistons, rings, pins, and locks, rod bolts, ). You will also need to purchase aftermarket sleeves if you intend to run more than 3.8 liters of displacement.
That's good information, thanks Adam.

Do you know if both kits use the standard length rods for all their configurations?
Old 02-06-2008, 08:01 AM
  #190  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

doug and kwame are 2 totally different people

both my car and kwame's car are shop cars and personal cars - we got our kit direct, as we sell quite a bit of BC stuff

they have 2 types, std. rods and a high performance rod. I know the "better" one (stronger, rated for higher power/torque) is called the BC625+ Rod and is 5.675"" per their website.
Old 01-14-2011, 05:06 AM
  #191  
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (30)
 
e30cabrio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hear
Posts: 45,543
Received 2,606 Likes on 2,061 Posts
Default

Are there still issues with the BC 88mm crank& fitment?
Old 01-14-2011, 05:41 AM
  #192  
str8dum1
New Member
iTrader: (11)
 
str8dum1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: raleigh-wood NC
Posts: 8,807
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

nope cuz they dont make it anymore, only 86.4mm stroke. If you want a 88mm get the GTM.
Old 01-14-2011, 05:47 AM
  #193  
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (30)
 
e30cabrio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hear
Posts: 45,543
Received 2,606 Likes on 2,061 Posts
Default

https://my350z.com/forum/engine/4995...ild-parts.html

I bought this one.
Old 01-14-2011, 08:09 AM
  #194  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by str8dum1
nope cuz they dont make it anymore, only 86.4mm stroke. If you want a 88mm get the GTM.
Yes they still offer it actually - it's not part of their official catalog anymore, but if it's what you want, they will do it for you - but there is no advantage to it according to our direct discussions with BC. The net difference with the largest piston is 4.07 liters vs 4.15 liters - you tell me how much of a difference that will yield. That is why they introduced the slightly smaller stroke one - because it needs alot less machining (retains squirters), and will yield virutally identical power for all intents and purposes.

There never were issues with it...the issue is on the part of an installer who may be ill experienced for this type of build in the first place. A stroker is shoving 10 lbs of dung into a 5 lbs bag. Some guys know how to do this, others don't. You gotta find the machinist who knows how. The larger stroke crank will simply require alot more machine work and eliminates the factory oil squirters - which again can be compensated for in any number of ways by someone who knows what they are doing in the first place.

Last edited by Z1 Performance; 01-14-2011 at 08:12 AM.
Old 01-14-2011, 08:16 AM
  #195  
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (30)
 
e30cabrio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hear
Posts: 45,543
Received 2,606 Likes on 2,061 Posts
Default

Thanks Adam, from reading this thread it sounded like there was an issue.

I still need rods & pistons for my build. Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Stefan
Old 01-14-2011, 08:20 AM
  #196  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

BC, that would be my suggestion, since all the stuff was designed by them to work together - that's what we did for kwame's
Old 01-14-2011, 08:22 AM
  #197  
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (30)
 
e30cabrio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hear
Posts: 45,543
Received 2,606 Likes on 2,061 Posts
Default

BC rods & CP pistons since that is what comes in their kit? Am I ok with .20 11.0.1?


Thanks
Old 01-14-2011, 08:27 AM
  #198  
Z1 Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

those would be perfectly fine

for the bore, and compression, that is something you'll need to go over with your machinist based on all the other components of your build, goals, etc.
Old 01-14-2011, 08:31 AM
  #199  
Kwame
New Member
iTrader: (78)
 
Kwame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
Posts: 5,219
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Machining that crank to fit in the block will cost you more than what you paid for the crank itself, enjoy.
Old 01-14-2011, 08:48 AM
  #200  
e30cabrio
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (30)
 
e30cabrio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hear
Posts: 45,543
Received 2,606 Likes on 2,061 Posts
Default

I thought it was made for the motor?


Quick Reply: Update on the Brian Crower Stroker kit.



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:54 AM.