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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Exclamation 6mt 3rd gear not worky- here's why!

well, 2 trannys later, after breaking 3rd gear both times (when 3rd gear engaged engine revs freely), we decided to pull one apart and see if we could spot the issue...



as we pulled the tranny apart, we saw specs of copper colored metal, small ammount, in the case...hmmm....

edit: this is the 3rd counter gear, it has split apart....



now see how it has broken free from the larger gear ring, these are designed to be one solid piece, so when the larger ring is engaged with the coupling sleeve, 3rd gear is not!!!






now I'm very curious as to the puerto rico welding fix?!?!?!?..where do you weld, the seam that "could" be welded would likely get in the way of where the gears mate on each shaft...someone please enlighten me




before you ask, no i didnt weld it....just posing

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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This is the funniest thread ever...hehe...nice work.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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The weld alone won't hold. You have to super-glue it first.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Dude just weld it! Do it!
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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I would have to assume you are NOT going to use the wire feed.. You are going to have to take another approach..
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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I would have to assume you are NOT going to use the wire feed.. You are going to have to take another approach..
+1, I am pretty sure Todd knows that his small mig welder has zero chances of properly welding a thick gearset.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Sorry Todd, Jorge made the pic, I posted it..
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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got mad mspaint skillz!!!!!! lol


just jk T lol
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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I should take my tranny apart and see whats up, my 3rd gear seemed to explode when I "gently" put it in at the track
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I should take my tranny apart and see whats up, my 3rd gear seemed to explode when I "gently" put it in at the track

Yeah! "gently".
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Yeah! "gently".



yah...nothin he does with his transmision is "gently"
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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LMAO @ that smiley Luie, never seen that one Next week at work I'll take mine apart and post pics. Todd-how hard is it to get to/see 3rd gears synchro? Ive never cracked open a tranny before...
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Can we do a group buy on this?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
LMAO @ that smiley Luie, never seen that one Next week at work I'll take mine apart and post pics. Todd-how hard is it to get to/see 3rd gears synchro? Ive never cracked open a tranny before...

i have taken apart transfer cases on my rock crawler before, so i was a bit prepared, wasnt that bad all things considered... just need some puinches, snap ring pliers, and to actually get the two gear shafts seperated, you will need a puller...

YOU CAN DO IT!
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https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...5&postcount=45
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It's the engagement gear that breaks off of the main gear. This is going to be really hard to fix without a fully custom gear that has the engagement gear laser welded onto it.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by turismo
Can we do a group buy on this?

just got off the phone with nissan

3rd gear $160

UPDATE:
I studied the diagrams and compared them to what is sitting on my workbench... the part that broke is the "3rd counter gear"





Now that is a great illustration!


maybe rebuilding with a new counter gear that has been cryoed and prayed over by monks???

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
+1, I am pretty sure Todd knows that his small mig welder has zero chances of properly welding a thick gearset.

yah, i have some JB weld...
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