Oh yes, and off the showroom floor, an Evo is faster than a Z, but it's also not as nice.

 

I don't agree. Especially when you're not referring to the $36k MR.

I also don't agree about the HKS stuff being any more reliable than other FI kits on the market. I guess you understand that HKS doesn't manufacture the blowers in their kits, Rotrex did until now. HKS parts also have quality issues (look at the recent exhaust problems).

One of the issues with the previous rotrex kit is that it just doesn't make enough power. I know multiple people who bought it and suffered from major buyer's remorse due to the fact that it barely felt faster than stock. Just take a look at that intercooler and it should leave you feeling like you paid too much for so little.

 

Plently of people have run the Greddy, Turbonetics, APS single and twin without issues.

360rwhp will only pull 110-112 traps, which is still not enough to run with Porshe's or Ferrari's!

 

Ok, in the states that may be the case, but here in Europe, there both about 45000 Euros off the showroom, which is about 60000 US. And here you only get one model Z, and i beleive it's your equivalent of the Grand Touring, with Bose stereo, Leather heated seats, Brembo brakes, and the whole works. Same with the Evo, we only get the top of the line. So here, the Evo is faster than the Z. Not to mention in the UK you can also get the FQ320, FQ360, etc.. models. Which as the name implies, are f'ing quick.

 

Not everyone is into drag racing and there is too much power. For example Auto-X. 360rwhp is perfect for the Z. However I've read on the other forum that the new HKS SC should produce around 450ish rwhp.

 

No offence, but i don't really give a crap about trap speed and quarter miles, most of the driving i do is on motorways.
I'm sure there are loads of people that run these kits without problems, but we also know that there have been lot's that have had problems, and i beleive it's common knowledge that the Greddy kit comes with a crappy tune out of the box.

 

I beleive that is what the impeller is able to produce with an uprated pulley, but its less than that out of the box.

 

Does the new kit still use the Rotrex unit or have they started developing something in house? I heard the reason the initial kit was discontinued was a business disagreement between Rotrex and HKS. Shame too, even though the unit they used was a bit on the small side for max power, its far superior in design and power delivery compared to the Vortech or Procharger.

 

In California, considering a SC is a viable option considering the fascist 'emissions laws' here.

 

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Evo's Suck

 

I beleive it's the same design as the Rotrex, but with a few minor changes, but still the whole planetary drive dooby. I think it's an awesome kit, and looks OEM.

 

Yeah, the planetary drive is what makes the units so great. On the C30 model line, which I think the HKS kit used, input shaft speeds peak around 12,600 rpm, but gives you an impeller speed up to 120,000 rpm.

 

rotrex is junk neuspeed used to make them for VWs but quit because it was costing them more in warranty work from then coming apart.

 

HKS nuthuggers loving weaksauce power levels and high price tags FTL

 

Well there's an insightful comment.

 

It's not about week sauce, it's about availability of resources for me. If i lived a couple of hours away from somewhere like forged performance, i would be going TT and the full works, but, if i did that here, where would i go to get it tuned.
Hence your comment being a bit pathetic.

 

Where are you getting your information? The RS (2004+) are the fastest Evos. How are you saying that an AWD turbo, none the less an EVO, is slower than a Z?? The RS can easily do 13.1-13.3 quarter miles...EASILY. Get ur facts straight.

 

...but alas, Alberto is right.

 

Oh whatever. Trying to get through to some people on this forum is like drawing blood out of a stone. I like the kit, when it comes out i'll buy it, and that's the end of it. I don't really give a toss what most of you think.