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Old 02-02-2009, 06:59 AM
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The first 30 pages were all drama.. lol Just make sure you have all the parts before you start the install, this is the same for every kit and STS is not the only one that ship missing parts, chit happen but STS is known to ship missing bolt/clamp..etc I'm not sure what defect you were talking about though..
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Originally Posted by athenG
/\ Hey did you sell your EBC?
No, I have not yet.
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Originally Posted by athenG
The first 30 pages were all drama.. lol Just make sure you have all the parts before you start the install, this is the same for every kit and STS is not the only one that ship missing parts, chit happen but STS is known to ship missing bolt/clamp..etc I'm not sure what defect you were talking about though..
what he said.... This is a great kit for the stock block and i think with the test of time it may prove to provide the most longevity of any kit on a stock block.


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Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx for the info guys
Old 02-03-2009, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kandy eclipse
So all in all how would u rate this kit.
I just ordered mine about 2 weeks ago and im really having doubts about it after reading the first 30 or so pages i ust got tired and gave up on it... But then i read the last pages and i hear great comments ..so has all the lil details been fixed as far as theie missing parts and defects or do they still have the same issues?
I was in the same boat. Right after I made the purchase I decided to go through the thread. I read about an engine failure, power issues, injector issues, etc. and started to get scared. But in the end things turned out great, and I'm very happy with the purchase so far.
Old 02-03-2009, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyC
I was in the same boat. Right after I made the purchase I decided to go through the thread. I read about an engine failure, power issues, injector issues, etc. and started to get scared. But in the end things turned out great, and I'm very happy with the purchase so far.
thanx for your info im glad everything has worked out fine with your car hopefully everything works well for me also.. i really dont want that much power just enough so it can defend its own and what really convinced me about this kit is that it can easily be removed if i ever need to .

thanx guys for your help
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Who upgraded their turbo ?
    Old 02-14-2009, 12:54 PM
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    Who sells this kit now? as far as trusted vendors i mean.
    Old 02-14-2009, 05:41 PM
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    Originally Posted by Mike_G
    Who upgraded their turbo ?
      Goosegoose went through a few and the BB was his favorite (not sure if it is the same size) coz it spooled better and hold boost too. You can also check the Shop Build with his T66 or T67 on a built motor.

      https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...21-torque.html

      Originally Posted by idwin
      Who sells this kit now? as far as trusted vendors i mean.
      Cin Motorsports is/was a dealer but for some reason it is banned
      Old 02-15-2009, 03:55 AM
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      CIN still sells them.. http://www.cinmotorsports.com/index.html
      I just spoke with Bobby last week.
      AthenG thanks for the link. Just trying to put some #s together and see where I want to go
      Old 02-15-2009, 04:23 AM
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      Originally Posted by Mike_G
      CIN still sells them.. http://www.cinmotorsports.com/index.html
      I just spoke with Bobby last week.
      AthenG thanks for the link. Just trying to put some #s together and see where I want to go
      Why do you want to upgrade the turbo? If you have the extra cash then I think you should go with the BB or at least go with the 60-1 but make sure stay with .58 AR or lower... I did some # and the stock 60 O trim is really only good below 10 psi if you want to stay withing the efficiency range, search this thread and you'll see that the 60-1 is better.

      Edit:
      Here, the post. https://my350z.com/forum/6560946-post1557.html

      Originally Posted by athenG
      Ok did a little driving and I only get the flutter sound below 3700rpm. If I let go of the gas above 3700rpm then I get a nice clean BOV sound even at just 2psi (Not as loud as 5+psi though). I never really payed attention to it since it doesn't sound real bad and happen in very low boost and low load.


      Edit:

      Got bored so I tried see how efficient our turbo.. I used the formula from Corky Bell's book (Maximum Boost) and verified my numbers from http://www.squirrelpf.com/turbocalc/ turbo calculator.

      First let us do some basic calculation. I have the entire lbs/min from 1-15psi but I'm just going to post the result for 10psi. I used 10psi coz I'm assuming we are loosing 2psi from all the pipings (could be more though..)

      VQ35DE 3.5 liter

      Code:
      RPM	NA/CFM	LB/Min@10PSI
      3000	157.53	18.48
      3200	168.03	19.71
      3400	178.53	20.94
      3600	189.04	22.17
      3800	199.54	23.41
      4000	210.04	24.64
      4200	220.54	25.87
      4400	231.04	27.10
      4600	241.55	28.33
      4800	252.05	29.57
      5000	262.55	30.80
      5200	273.05	32.03
      5400	283.55	33.26
      5600	294.06	34.49
      5800	304.56	35.72
      6000	315.06	36.96
      6200	325.56	38.19
      6400	336.06	39.42
      6600	346.57	40.65
      6800	357.07	41.88

      Look at the Compressor Map of the 60 trim and it's efficiency at 10psi. You guys can see we are well past its efficiency rate.



      Here is a compressor map of a 60-1. You can see that it is within the efficiency range.





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      Goosegoose,
      I believe you are running the 60-1 right? Can you give us some input on the spool performance compare to your old 60 O trim?

      Here's your map at 17psi (probably 15psi on the manifold). You should see big difference compare to your old one. I think the turbo is good up to 17-18psi from the manifold.




      Goosegoose is using the 60-1 trim and I hope he can chime in if the spool was better or worst. I know with the 60 O trim was just not enough and power die on the higher rpm even at just 14psi.
      Old 02-23-2009, 02:46 PM
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      just picked one up heres the mods list

      - Sts rear mount turbocharger kit T-60 Ball Bearing turbo
      - spearco intercooler
      - 440cc injectors
      - 255lph walbro fuel pump
      - Utec engine management currently running base map with aggressieve timing
      - Kinetix Resonated test pipes
      - Skunk2 Plenum spacer
      - Aem Wideband
      - Boost gauge
      - jwt clutch and flywheel
      - stainles steel clutch line
      - brembo brakes
      - infinate adjustable struts
      - tein springs
      -racing hart c4 sprayed flat black. 10.5 inch wheels
      - Greddy g-force front bumper
      - 8000k HID's
      - carbon fiber shift ****
      - carbon fiber engine cover
      Old 02-23-2009, 04:41 PM
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      Originally Posted by DudeMan
      just picked one up heres the mods list

      - Sts rear mount turbocharger kit T-60 Ball Bearing turbo
      - spearco intercooler
      - 440cc injectors
      - 255lph walbro fuel pump
      - Utec engine management currently running base map with aggressieve timing
      - Kinetix Resonated test pipes
      - Skunk2 Plenum spacer
      - Aem Wideband
      - Boost gauge
      - jwt clutch and flywheel
      - stainles steel clutch line
      - brembo brakes
      - infinate adjustable struts
      - tein springs
      -racing hart c4 sprayed flat black. 10.5 inch wheels
      - Greddy g-force front bumper
      - 8000k HID's
      - carbon fiber shift ****
      - carbon fiber engine cover
      Welcome to the Club
      Old 02-23-2009, 06:04 PM
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      Originally Posted by Boozt
      Welcome to the Club
      thanks btw its an 04 g coupe on 7psi picking up a revup long block this week to build
      Old 02-23-2009, 06:07 PM
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      Welcome.. Post dyno when you get one.
      Old 02-24-2009, 02:41 PM
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      aggressive timing?
      Old 02-24-2009, 03:06 PM
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      Originally Posted by DanielW
      aggressive timing?

      thats what one of the maps is right now im on a conservative tune with 5-6psi

      and what i posted i took straight from the sellers post when i got the car
      Old 03-04-2009, 08:34 PM
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      Hey guys. Wow, this thread is dead. I'm sure things will pick back up in the Spring as long as we are still employed

      So I'm going to need to get different injectors this Spring before I start tuning my car again. I bought older DW (forget what style) 440cc's, but since they were rated differently they are actually 400's. I didn't find this out until I got them though.

      I plan on staying under 400hp for sure, but I know that these won't be enough. Should I just go with RC 440's? I was thinking of getting some 550cc DW's to be on the safe side, but you can find used RC 440's for about half the price. Btw, I'm only running the Walbro w/o a return system, and the fuel pressure is around 51 psi at idle (dips a bit on the way to red line).

      - Jon
      Old 03-05-2009, 05:26 AM
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      Originally Posted by JonnyC
      Hey guys. Wow, this thread is dead. I'm sure things will pick back up in the Spring as long as we are still employed

      So I'm going to need to get different injectors this Spring before I start tuning my car again. I bought older DW (forget what style) 440cc's, but since they were rated differently they are actually 400's. I didn't find this out until I got them though.

      I plan on staying under 400hp for sure, but I know that these won't be enough. Should I just go with RC 440's? I was thinking of getting some 550cc DW's to be on the safe side, but you can find used RC 440's for about half the price. Btw, I'm only running the Walbro w/o a return system, and the fuel pressure is around 51 psi at idle (dips a bit on the way to red line).

      - Jon
      Hey Johnny I like your vids on youtube I just happened to come across some of them of your old supercharged and now sts setup. Why don't you just do the DW 600cc's and call it a day? I have those and they run, start and idle perfectly fine with the utec. Also, buy new, I just wouldn't want to buy used injectors to save a few hundred bucks with so much at stake.
      Old 03-05-2009, 06:07 AM
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      I'm in the same boat and have the older DW 440cc... I have been toying around the idea of just getting a stage 0 RFS or bigger injector. I dont have a FPR so dont know if my FP is stable but I'm thinking of getting an RFS and maybe just bump the FP a little just to give me enough fuel so I can lower my IDC. I'm also planning to stay below 400whp and I dont want to deal with a bigger injector and Utec.

      My W/M does help me a little, I can still boost 8psi above 40F but with IDC around 90%-93% at 6800rpm. I'm leaning towards getting the RFS though..


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