this new ems does that

 

i read the boost control/timing/fuel control/learning capabilities/etc of this ECU, and i must say that I am A) very excited and interested in this, and B) lost in regards to all the technical mumbo-jumbo of this ECU, as i'm still learning all of this.

that being said, forgive my question, but in addition to all the aforementioned features of this ECU, it can also control A/C, cooling fans, cruise control, etc.?

 

yes as its been noted already by saying you dont need the factory ecu

 

cool...thanks for the clarification.

and sorry for the dumb question.

 

QuickSilver, this unit sounds like it's going to be amazing but what's the point of specific feature updates when the release is so far away? Once it's working on a Z/G and can be purchased, then discussion of available features would be worthwhile. Otherwise it's all speculation on vaporware... I love that it can control every aspect of the car from engine to creature comforts - opens up a lot of possibilites IF the company delivers...

 

Unless i'm mistaken, i believe they're projecting an early 2008 release for this EMS. IIRC, they're pretty much completed with the unit itself, but are now in the process of testing out the features and ironing out any remaining kinks in the program.

 

My understanding was that this was for the Supra where they are actively soliciting feedback and interaction with that community. I thought they still have to work on development for the 350z... My apologies if the company is actively promoting this product in the Z community.

EDIT: wait a minute, I read your post wrong - projecting 2008? puhleeze for software that could mean anything - lol! Providing a long list of features and no working solution is considered vaporware. Basically anything you ask for and the answer is "yep, it'll do that". Great, we'll just have to wait and see if it comes through on every promise. Fingers crossed, but not holding my breath! If they accomplish even half of what they claim, it'll be a top product... It's the release date that always kills you though. That software doesn't sound simple!

 

Most if not all the features are working on the supra already and are just finalizing everything... so they work.

Somoene brought the example of the boost control like with the utec that they jstu "recently" got it to work... well if you noticed i posted the #s the supra just made and it was using the pro-efi boost controller.

Also if you noticed the company is not even promoting this on the Z community yet, this thread started by someone with a good eye on other forums. But that doesn't mean they haven't done anything for the Z either. I am only listing the features of the unit... which wouldn't otherwise be there if they have not worked on the supra so far. Its looking all very promising and much quicker than you anticipate i believe.

 

Is it in the hands of tuners and customers that have verified this? If so, then that is awesome cause I would hope that moving from one JDM car to another wouldn't be too difficult.

Did you hear anything about OBDII compliance?

EDIT: I tried to scan the supra thread for OBD compliance, but can't find a search function for that forum w/o registering - lots of discussion on engine management strategy though - interesting...

 

This will emulate a factory ecu and is essential one, so it will not throw any codes, and will also output the necessary signal when getting smogged and plugged in.

Chris

 

Outstanding - thanks for chiming in.

 

Hopefully cheaper as well

 

The features sound incredible but there's one thing that will definitely sway my mind on this unit. I have a twin turbo vq in my 240sx. It doesn't use the drive by wire tb along with many other things. I don't like the fact that i'm not able to tune my own car. One thing i believe in is fabricating, building, tuning, driving my own car. Is being locked out of my maps a final and set decision or would you be able to work around that for those of us that prefer to do our own work?

 

^It all depends on your tuner. From the get go the box is not locked like the FCON-VPRO. There are certain features that you can access and tune but if your tuner thinks you are comptent enough to tune your own car he/she can unlock it for you to access everything the ems has to offer. So you have to convince your tuner that you know what you are doing and they can unlock it for you.

 

If that's the case then nevermind. I really don't need someone telling me whether i can or cannot access my own tune. I've worked with an AEM on several cars over the last couple of years without a problem. I guess i'll just have to wait for the haltech platinum.

 

its been posted in the supra forums that the cost with be around ~~2500+- for everything you need

 

what he meant to say is when you get the unit just tell your tuner that you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING...and thats it he wont password protect the maps. There is like 4 pages about this on the supra forums explaining how this system stays in a happier medium between the aem and the vpro as far as what is allowed to customer for tunning.
They clearly mention how they don't mind some customers playing with their tunning but they also mention how there are some customers that they would rather have them not touch it at all...

For you to say " I really don't need someone telling me whether i can or cannot access my own tune." when in this case you are not locked by the unit but by the tuner just means you dotn have a trusted tuner yourself.
I dunno why you make of this a big deal. If you claim you know as much as you say in this same thread jsut direct a message to of one of the future reseallers of this unit Sound Performance if they would sell you this unit to you with out any password protection. You are jsut missing the point here becase the protection in the case to have password protection is in case you have a novice with a lot of money who got his ride seriously buildup and doesnt know enough to touch the ems and could screw it up. But if you know tuner will have no problem what so ever to give this to you.

 

I understand what the password protection is for but i felt as if allowing the user to access it was out of the question after reading SP's posts on here. So all i was trying to accomplish with this post was basically what you just mentioned. I am just asking "the tuner" a question since afterall, my question was directed towards Sound Performance.

 

I only point out what SP has already said,m what has been discussed and answered already. Just saying the exact same thing they said but this time pointed to you. Thats it, the answer was there for you already.But since you did not want to read the original thread i am just answering it for you. And allowing the user to access it is not out of the question at all, you obviously don't fall in the category of customers that know shlt about tunning from what you say.

 

You cannot compare this computer to ANYTHING else available. None of the other computers offer half of what this computer offer. The biggest difference is this computer's ability to block learn. It will detect knock and adjust your timing..... then if knock goes away.... it will add the timing back it. It will compensate for all weather conditions for all fuel trims. It will control idle speed under all conditions.... why?? because of its ability to learn. It thinks exactly like the most sophisticated factory ECUs think and makes adjustments on its own like they do...... then under any similar circumstance in the future it remembers!! The reason it acts like a factory computer... is because it started life as one of the most sophisticated factory ECUs available. This is 2007 technology... all of the other computers available just do what you program them to and cannot think on their own. That is comparable to 1985 factory ECU technology. !!

This computer has been up and running on the VQ for some time..... controlling the cams, DBW etc. Final software code needs to be written and tested before it can be released so expect it early in 2008. It will be worth the wait!!