WOW 2:08 is moving!!!

Congrats to the owner and to Scott.


I was planning on being there, but I ran the Red-line event at Summit the week before and my rear end is now toast.

 

Wish there was some vids..

 

I dont have time I am going to send Alberto the tape and if he want and has time he will post the video I have witch is not much.
I am running around with my head cut off, I am leaving tonight, so tying up loose ends.
Luie

 

I thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to your car lap the track. It was a beautiful sight

Nice job on the 1st place.

 

Thanks DJ I wish I could said hello.

 

Be safe over there Luie.....

 

Congrats on everything you have done on the car! That is impressive to say the least for a true street car to run those times.

Looking forward to the opportunity to wrench on your car while you are over seas.

Be safe over there, see you in a few months!

 

Joe, keep in touch and let me know the findings and progress on Louie's car. Aside from the massive oil loss from blow by, the heat, and a few other miner tuning issues it seemed pretty solid. JWT is there to help as well. We are pretty sure the turbo is just fine.

 

Luie, Scott,

Were you guys running NPG+ for coolant or did you have to switch that out for the track event? What do you think is up with the heat control? Air bubble? I think Luie has the upgraded fans and radiator...

EDIT: And if you guys learn something about catch can set ups to prevent the blow by issue, please keep us updated.

 

that is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Let me know if you need any help with a diff. Shipping might be expensive, but I will help if I can. We only ran a 2.09.3xx (not a .08), but I am sure with Hoosiers and a 200-300 pound lighter car (our Double Down Time Attack car) we should have not too much of an issue getting into the 2.03.xx/2.02.xx there. I usually see about 3-4 seconds alone just between the Slicks (unl. tires) and the R-compound (modified tires). With just switching from my beat up old R-compound Yoko's to the tires that Dave from FT loaned us after his mishap, the Nitto R-comps, we saw almost a 5 SEC,. GAIN !


There was a bit more I might have left there on the table this past weekend but A) this was not my car so I was never 100% in it and and B)there were a few issues with the car that were distracting to me. C) I was also in a lot of pain

Louie's car was very respectable for it being a daily driven full interior street car with no aero whatsoever (a big help on this track) so he should be proud of his babie's outcome and our results from this weekend.

Those damn AWD cars are always tough to beat.


EDIT: Not to mention, this cars severe flex, do to NO strut tower brace AT ALL.

EDIT (again) I was also dealing with alot of distracting pain from a double hurnia that I had prior to this weekend. I just wanted to get out there and get this weekend done before I come home and have my surgery.

 

Although I was looking forward to seeing the benefit on his car from the upgradded fans and custom shroud, I was dissapointed to not see any type of improvement with those mods at all, the reason the car ran semi-hot and stayed there is the Evans coolant. That stuff just likes to run at a pretty high operating range, thats just how it goes, nothing too alarming, no temps I saw were out of controll (for this coolant). Still a mystery why we were loosing a tiny bit of coolant every 10 min. run session.

 

Hahahaha, no catch can that I ever seen would be able to keep up with that type of oil loss from this cars blow by. It was blowing out about a quart of oil every 10 min. session. It did have some type of clear plastic tiny little catch can, but I think it was hooked up wrong, cause it was bone dry all weekend. Even if it was working it would have filled up in about a half a lap.

 

Hmmm, sounds like the DIY catch can mod - kind of hard to hook that up wrong - one end out the PCV valve and the other to the intake [EDIT: not intake manifold, just intake]. And if piston blow by was really excessive I would have expected it to be full.

What is the presumed cause of the oil loss and the nature of the repair required? Luie mentioned something about hose configuration in his discussion with Jim Wolf, but nothing too specific...

 

It is not my place to speak out about the underhood issues that this car encountered, as I did not build it, and I will refraim from throughing who did under the bus on that. It is Louie's car and that is his buuisness. It is between him and his former car builder. I was just there to help out, be the wheel man, and set up his suspension as best I could with what I had.

Louie's goal is to have a track car, and someday he will. The car already has a good start, now.

 

Exactly.

First of all, nice job driving the car...you both did a fine job.

The catch can we used is as simple as it gets. It's an air/liquid seperator from Home Depot. There is no possible way to incorrectly install one.

Louie PM'ed and texted that massive amounts of oil were coming out of the blow-off valve, which is indicative of a turbocharger issue, not an engine issue. So I am speculating that your oil loss was coming mostly from the turbocharger. If you were blasting through one qt of oil due to blow by, the engine would be smoking like a space shuttle.

Of course, running the engine on a fast track, at 16-20psi of boost pressure, with a 3500lb car is asking for trouble, IMHO. The high boost maps are designed primarily for drag racing, and were not enhanced for road racing at high boost. We were not consulted at all prior to this strategy. We run our track cars at 10psi-12psi, and consistently run faster times than just about anyone out there. You dont need massive boost, and the associated issues it creates, to turn fast lap times. I just hope that running the engine at those temps and boost levels didn't damage anything in the engine.

I am sure L's new friends and support team can take over from here. Best of luck guys.

 

Thanks again it on the way to getting dialed in.

 

Thanks for the congrats, Sharif. Would have liked to have you show up there (believe me, I would have)

We only ran the car at your 93 octane street tune (15psi) even using 112 octane (for safety). The hight boost 20psi. was only tried for about 1/2 a lap or so on C16 before I switched it back to 15.
With the better tires, the car could have been a bit faster with more boost/power, but it all came out just fine.

We always run and beat the everloving crap out of our cars we build at 20+ psi, with less issues, for much longer sessions, in much hotter weather. but to each his own. It might be a matter of driving experience and type of track as to what type of power is managable on a track.
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Yep engine looks fine, and I am about 80% sure the turbos are fine.. No smoke to day however thats all after I rerouted the "oil catch can" Thanks Alberto.i dont have time to go out and drive the car for long piored of time but I think the issue might not be all that serious afterall.
My new friends are all over it, and are in route to pick her up.
As far as more power on the track , I agree and disagree. If it was a Sunday track day for fun, Yes you dont need more than low boost.
In this venue we tried all three settings with better times as we went up in boost... imagine that?

If I have to consualt my tuner everytime I want to run my car hard, and change a tune (Fcon) and pay more $$$ then thats not cool. I know $hit breaks when you track, but give me a break, two sessions and the car is running like a stuck pig. Sorry bro but I'll take my chances and I am glad I did. Good old Scott made some small 350Z history on my ride.
I am no way saying your a bad tuner or a bad engine builder.. No way..
I just think you took it for granted when I told you I was going to track my car "HARD".
In the end you did tune my car and Chris and Devan built my motor, and this car came from your shop.


Good luck kid see you on the track!

 

The probability from it being a turbo seal problem is slim at best. I would put money on it not being the problem. Maybe some install issues is my guess