All In One Trunk Mounted Water Alcohol Methanol Injection Systems
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All In One Trunk Mounted Water Alcohol Methanol Injection Systems
No supercharger or turbocharger system is complete without a water methanol alcohol injection system. Regardless if your running an intercooled system or not, the benefits gained from a water/alcohol injection system on both intercooled and non-intercooled supercharger & turbocharger systems are so significant, you simply won't want to run without one once you realize the further benefits possible using one.
116+ Octane With Water / Methanol Injection!
Knock Knock. Who's there... Detonation!
Benefits Of the Water Alcohol / Methanol Injection!
- Increased horsepower & torque
- Lower air intake temperature by 50-200+ degree's
- Reduce cylinder temperatures by up to 250+
- Reduce and eliminate engine damaging detonation & preignition
- Increase 87-93 octane pump gas by 10-20 points
- Allows you to safely run more boost and timing
- Removes and prevents carbon build up on pistons, valves and combustion chamber
- No need for expensive racing fuel or additives
The Only Fully Assembled, Pre-Wired & Pre-Tested Water methanol Injection System On The Market!
Our all-in-one trunk mount "systems" make it easier than ever before to install. Unlike other competitors water methanol injection "kits", you won't have to worry about assembling the components first and then trying to find space to install the pump, container, controller, hoses and wiring under the hood of your ride (nearly impossible on newer vehicles). This can be time consuming (between 4-5 hours) and costly (most mechanics charge at least $80-100 per hour). Our trunk mount systems are typically installed in 60-90 minutes!! That's because our system comes pre-assembled and pre-wired. So the only thing you'll have to do is install the tank assembly, apply power, mount the nozzle or nozzles and run fluid and boost line. It's that easy!
Not only do we assemble & pre-wire each system for you, each system is hand tested before it's packaged to ensure you receive a fully functional system everytime.
Our Kit vs. Leading Competitors:
- Most advanced & versatile digital progressive controller on the market - compare for yourself vs. the competitors
- Our all-in-on controller allows you to run not only a boost signal but also a MAF, TPS, MAP & EGT signal
- System includes a serial port for connection to a laptop
- Compatible with 100% methanol, ethanol and isopropanol
- System comes pre-assembled unlike the competitors which requires you to assemble everything
- System can be installed in 60-90 minutes - That's 4-5 times faster vs. the competitors under hood kit
- No unsightly pump, reservoir, hoses or added wiring under the hood
- No need to convert existing wind shield wiper fluid container
- Our system is completely hidden in the trunk for a stealthy install
- 1.5 gallon container vs. the competitors common 2 quart container
- Much less frequent refills required as the leading competitors do
For questions or technical support call us at 1.801.447.2559 or email us directly at info@alcoholinjectionsystems.com
Your water alcohol / methanol injection specialist's. Let us know how we can help.
AIS Stage 1 Adjustable Boost Activated Trunk Mount Water Alcohol Injection System
AIS Stage 2 Digital Progressive Trunk Mount Water Methanol/Alcohol Injection System
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Originally Posted by DMK
Is that Mr.Clean Windshied washer fluid?
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This should help. I put this together to make it easier to know how much methanol is contained in the various types of windshield wiper fluids. Depending on the brand the percentages may fluctuate by 1-3%.
Wind Shield Wiper Fluid Rating:
+32 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 1% Methanol/99% Water
+20 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 10% Methanol/90% Water
0 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 23% Methanol/77% Water
-10 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 20% Methanol/72% Water
-20 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 33% Methanol/67% Water
-25 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 35% Methanol/65% Water
-32 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 38% Methanol/62% Water
-50 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 62% Methanol/38% Water
Wind Shield Wiper Fluid Rating:
+32 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 1% Methanol/99% Water
+20 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 10% Methanol/90% Water
0 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 23% Methanol/77% Water
-10 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 20% Methanol/72% Water
-20 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 33% Methanol/67% Water
-25 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 35% Methanol/65% Water
-32 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 38% Methanol/62% Water
-50 Degrees Fahrenheit Rating - Contains Approx. 62% Methanol/38% Water
Got any suggestions?
with our turbocharged engines, you guys, or your competitors, need to make a control that is programmable based on MAP (boost) and rpm!
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based.
I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based. I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
with our turbocharged engines, you guys, or your competitors, need to make a control that is programmable based on MAP (boost) and rpm!
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth. Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based.
I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based. I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
Both Aquamist and FJO offer systems that will do this. IMHO, it is the correct way to do it "if" you really want to use it to its full potential. Having a system that you can keep the ratio of water/meth to fuel ratio consistent will work much better.
The problem with most "standard kits" is they regulate only off of manifold pressure. What happens is that once you pass your engine peak torque fuel requirements will decrease as the engine rpms increase, however you are still adding the same amount of water/meth.
I'm not saying the simple systems do not work, but there are better ways to do it, that naturally cost much more:-)
Last edited by ForcefedZ; Dec 2, 2007 at 06:47 PM.
/\ It look like the FJO is a lot cheaper than the Aquamist kit but the Aquamist has more safety feature. I haven't looked at all the feature of the FJO kit but I think I found my Kit!!!!! Now what I just need is how this thing can be integrated with UTEC
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
with our turbocharged engines, you guys, or your competitors, need to make a control that is programmable based on MAP (boost) and rpm!
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth. Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based.
I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
for example, a turbo VQ can make 10 psi at 3000 rpm. it is also going to make 10 psi at 6000. but 10 psi at 3000 rpm is only half the airflow of 10 psi at 6000 rpm, yet the WIS is only going to be injecting the same amount of water/meth.
Am I the only one who sees an issue with this? Why doesn't someone make a control that is pressure and RPM based. I see that your controller can use pressure and MAF voltage, but that won't work on our cars. our stock maf is maxed out fairly quickly once boost is added to the equation! It might work on a car using an e-manage, but most turbo Zs are using a UTEC or Fcon, etc.
Do you think you can get the engineers to add an rpm sensing device to the apparatus? it would make alot of sense.
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Originally Posted by go-fast
it is acually an advantage to have the injection taper off as rpm increases,you need it the most in the meat of the torque curve where detonation is most likely.upper rpm...not so much.adding more juice up top only wastes fluid and shows little to none in gains.disclaimer:if your tune is on the ragged edge and your picking up knock in upper rpms it could be usefull,but otherwise don't waste your time.the solution for upper rpm enrichment would be dual systems.
Originally Posted by QuadCam
AIS,
Do you have any plans for a controller that is based on both boost pressure and RPM?
Do you have any plans for a controller that is based on both boost pressure and RPM?
I posted this on the other thread but didn't get any answer.
Anyone using Water/Meth kit using Injector Pulse Width? I'm looking at STS Water Meth kit and this is the explenation I got from STS.
" Our meth kit is unique compared to most of the other ones out there in the way that it delivers the 'progressive' fueling. Most kits out there are geared more for diesel and/or high boost applications so they are progressive based on boost more than RPM which is great for diesel applications where rpms are very limited and boost is extreme in range. Our system has a preprogrammed adjustable start point (typically 4 psi is where I will usually turn it on) and then it mimics the injector duty cycle so that as load and rpm increase it puts fuel in proportionally as the PCM is putting in fuel. We use the injector duty as the trigger for our duty cycle of the pump. It can also be triggered by an independent programmable source if you have a piggyback or some other source that allows you to plot a duty cycle map. I've set them up and run them with Unichip before and that worked real well too. Most of the time just running off your injector duty is going to work real well though and you can then just change nozzles and meth/water mixtures to obtain what is going to work best for your application"
I'm a newb on Water/Meth kit and wondering if this is good or any more question I should ask with the kit.
Edit:
Here's another explanation
"Our controller uses a negative trigger, just like running the injectors. So if you have the Utec control the pulse on that negative wire it will pulse modulate the duty cycle of the methanol. Duty cycle is actually not exactly what we want to describe this as, more in the line of pulse width - so sorry if I threw you off with that term. Duty cycle has a lot to do with the actual pulse width in milliseconds vs. the rpm of the engine and the 'window of opportunity' to spray during the intake cycle. Obviously you can hold injector open for a longer time at 3000 rpm (while intake valve is open) than you can at 6000 rpm (twice as long of a time in ms to spray fuel into the cylinder). Hope that makes sense"
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Originally Posted by jining
+1 for AIS, I have the stage 1 trunk mount kit and it is great! Thanks for that fluid meth/water content chart.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
AIS,
Do you have any plans for a controller that is based on both boost pressure and RPM?
Do you have any plans for a controller that is based on both boost pressure and RPM?