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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Nyquil is effecting you're lack of judgement on a joke.

Com'on Andrew! You know me better than that.

And if you ready the post again, you notice that I'm basically saying a "baller" makes dumb purchases.
ha ha yea i was pretty druged up. sorry baller. ha ha ha
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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I dont think you would grind on those stacks but a full polish would help
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
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Any observations on butt dyno results? Throttle responsiveness?
After installing the plenum I took it for a drive. I have driven this car a considerable amount with the plenum spacer over the past few months, and the only noticeable difference was how the car continued to pull to redline.

Next week I should be able to test it on a car with our built motor and built head package.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
I dont think you would grind on those stacks but a full polish would help
no polish, you want the turbulence at this point the manifold is restricted by the throttle body.

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Nice to see the new dynos....wonder who will the the first to screw with the stacks.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rb26ina240
no polish, you want the turbulence at this point the manifold is restricted by the throttle body.


No you dont.You want speed and velocity without turbulence.Turbulence is a bad thing.In the lower intake manifold,the casting is not so bad since it helps atomize the fuel.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rb26ina240
no polish, you want the turbulence at this point the manifold is restricted by the throttle body.
you've got to be kidding me.

people have made over 1000 whp on a stock throttle body..it's not limiting anything for 99.9% of people
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rb26ina240
no polish, you want the turbulence at this point the manifold is restricted by the throttle body.
you don't want turbulence at all actually, slows down velocity by a significant amount
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MaRbLe
wonder who will the the first to screw with the stacks.

I will place money on the guy who posted right above me...
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you don't want turbulence at all actually, slows down velocity by a significant amount
Listen to this man. He "kinda" knows what he's doing.

To the OP - I can't wait to see what kind of gains can be made on a high-boost built application. That's where this plenum will really shine.

-Acree
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you don't want turbulence at all actually, slows down velocity by a significant amount
Essentially correct, but preferring laminar flow to turbulent flow does not mean that you necessarily want perfect surface smoothness. The right kind of surface roughness will actually allow for greater laminar flow velocity than will a very smooth, polished surface.

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MacGuffin
Essentially correct, but preferring laminar flow to turbulent flow does not mean that you necessarily want perfect surface smoothness. The right kind of surface roughness will actually allow for greater laminar flow velocity than will a very smooth, polished surface.

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absolutely, I made my post overly simplistic. Porting in and of itself is an art as far as I'm concerned, and its where good results are separated from mediocre ones (or worse results than you started with). That's why I'm going to do the baselines myself, and let the guy with the fancy equipment tell me if its worth him playing with or not

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MacGuffin
Essentially correct, but preferring laminar flow to turbulent flow does not mean that you necessarily want perfect surface smoothness. The right kind of surface roughness will actually allow for greater laminar flow velocity than will a very smooth, polished surface.

example
thanks for clearing that up. knowing cosworth the plemums are already at the right smoothness.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
When you get yours, be sure to install it on the dyno.

For sure
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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as long as all these dynos are fully tuned and not just throwing the manifold on expecting gains with no tuning
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
as long as all these dynos are fully tuned and not just throwing the manifold on expecting gains with no tuning
Waiting for Forged to get their package of cosworth plenums
as soon as i get mine from Sharif ill test it at 25+psi on the intense/powerlab 76S turbo kit(or somethign else )

I cant wait
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
as long as all these dynos are fully tuned and not just throwing the manifold on expecting gains with no tuning

as soon as i get mine from sharif ill test it at 25+psi on the 76S turbo(or somethign else ) with the pro-efi

I cant wait
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you've got to be kidding me.

people have made over 1000 whp on a stock throttle body..it's not limiting anything for 99.9% of people
Who has made over 1000whp with the stock throttle body?

I know that in a NA situation you want some roughness to create the boundry layer along the sides of the runners/plenum/whatever so that the air can slip through faster as friction is lower between air/air then air/metal surface. In an FI application im not sure.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by meatbag
Who has made over 1000whp with the stock throttle body?

I know that in a NA situation you want some roughness to create the boundry layer along the sides of the runners/plenum/whatever so that the air can slip through faster as friction is lower between air/air then air/metal surface. In an FI application im not sure.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/287976-injected-performance-880whp-shakedown-dd-dyno.html
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kwame@z1
That may be, but I bet they'd be making much more efficient power with a larger throttle body and bored out manifold neck... I'd love to see the results with a ported manifold and a 3-3.5" internal diameter throttle body. Does the VK56 throttle body work with our throttle by wire system?
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