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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Hey,

I'm enjoying year 2 on my second Z, the first of which was bone stock for the year I owned it, its successor has seen some simple bolt ons :

HKS Hi-Power exhaust
Injen CAI
JWT Clutch Flywheel
Motordyne Copper Plenum etc

I've always wanted to go F/I, but my lack of knowledge on the subject and perhaps automotive repair in general has kept me from pulling the trigger. I mean for the beginner and perhaps the intermediate level enthusiast knowing what the difference between what you need and what people try to sell you can be overwhelming, on top of not knowing why you need it.

I've finally decided the only way to learn was from experience, and have pulled the trigger on a JWT Twin Turbo setup. I've purchased my UTEC, own a
compatible clutch/flywheel and exhaust so my question becomes what do I need to get up and running ? Just the basic requirements to drive out of the shop and perhaps run it for a few weeks until I swallow the bill and begin adding other items.

Gauges ? OP, AF, Boost ??
Turbo Timer ?
etc., etc.,

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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All you need is a A/F gauge and get a boost controller with a built in boost gauge like the HKS EVC. That all you need. Oh, and I recommend a walbro 255 fuel pump and CJM fuel return system at the min.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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cant forget clutch
and then a ecu along with tuning...
it starts getting expensive.
i am spending 10k so far and the damn thing aint even in the car yet.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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my stock block went kaboom at the track this weekend. just make sure you are financially ready to spend another 6 to 8k for a built block if your motor goes. i for one was prepared went F/I knowing this. just gotta find the right beater now.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Well I have the clutch/flywheel and the UTEC already (listed in first post)

I'm not looking to make crazy ponies right now just < or = 400rwhp on a reliable tune. I would settle for 350 out of the shop until i absorb some of the expense etc.,

So to get back on topic - I should ensure i have an A/F and Boost gauge. That should keep me ok for a little while assuming i'm not doing crazy pulls
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Glow
Well I have the clutch/flywheel and the UTEC already (listed in first post)

I'm not looking to make crazy ponies right now just < or = 400rwhp on a reliable tune. I would settle for 350 out of the shop until i absorb some of the expense etc.,

So to get back on topic - I should ensure i have an A/F and Boost gauge. That should keep me ok for a little while assuming i'm not doing crazy pulls
my car was around 380whp with a conservative tune, all gauges etc.. weather conditions were prefect A/F was perfect... she just gave...
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Originally Posted by Nexx
my car was around 380whp with a conservative tune, all gauges etc.. weather conditions were prefect A/F was perfect... she just gave...
Hmmm ... year and mileage of your Z at the time of death ?
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Originally Posted by Glow
Hmmm ... year and mileage of your Z at the time of death ?
04, 21k
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Niice glow... so you pulled the trigger on that kit you were talking about on
G350zforums? Good Luck!!
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Originally Posted by Nexx
04, 21k
Wow - any other reasons you can think of ? Do you track it often ?
Either way 380 looks like a good number for me at the moment. I rarely
track my car - maybe two - five times a year.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Glow
Wow - any other reasons you can think of ? Do you track it often ?
Either way 380 looks like a good number for me at the moment. I rarely
track my car - maybe two - five times a year.
2nd straight week at the track but only 3 runs total.
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Originally Posted by Nexx
my stock block went kaboom at the track this weekend. just make sure you are financially ready to spend another 6 to 8k for a built block if your motor goes. i for one was prepared went F/I knowing this. just gotta find the right beater now.


HMMMMM NEXX u gave me TONS OF $HIT when it happened to mine.....now....bwahahaha.....welcome to the club....
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Damn R.I.P. Nexx......

Who is gonna build ur new engine??
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Originally Posted by eltness350
HMMMMM NEXX u gave me TONS OF $HIT when it happened to mine.....now....bwahahaha.....welcome to the club....
In retrospect do you think it was user error ? Installation issues, maintenance issues ? or bad tunes etc., ?? So your telling me a conservative tune can blow a young block for no reason other than it was in the cards ?
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Originally Posted by eltness350
HMMMMM NEXX u gave me TONS OF $HIT when it happened to mine.....now....bwahahaha.....welcome to the club....
haha yeah, but you know.. i ready for some more powah! built lower, headwork, cams.. gonna be fun.
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
Damn R.I.P. Nexx......

Who is gonna build ur new engine??
not sure... working out a possible deal a for bailyz's BuiltZ motor with greddy TT's out of his G35 or keeping the vortech and going with another BuiltZ or IPP built motor. just trying to figure what all i want done. so many options, not sure what to do. hell im not even 100% sure my motor is done, well.. im 95% sure it but you never know until it gets torn down.
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Originally Posted by Glow
In retrospect do you think it was user error ? Installation issues, maintenance issues ? or bad tunes etc., ?? So your telling me a conservative tune can blow a young block for no reason other than it was in the cards ?
our rods are like butta, they've realized it i think and the HR's have thicker, stronger ones. our cars were never intended to boosted. its a roll of the dice really.
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What makes u say it blew??
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Originally Posted by Nexx
our rods are like butta, they've realized it i think and the HR's have thicker, stronger ones. our cars were never intended to boosted. its a roll of the dice really.
hmmm interesting.
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
What makes u say it blew??
right when i went into 3rd, the revs climbed but my car was accelerating, so i shifted into 4th same thing. i coasted to a 13.5 at 93.5mph rofl. i was like.. damn, my clutch is gone. as soon as i turned off the track the car died. i tried to restart her but never completely turned over. sounded like if your battery was almost dead and didnt have enough juice to completely start the car. plus the oil by the left side of the plenum kinda sealed it. i got her to start once but the motor violently rocked side to side so i immediately turned her off. kinda pissed me off, i thought it would have been more violent then that. no big boom not funny sounds.. nothing!!
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