Greddy TT Installation
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I sure wish i had done it this way but i am to damned stubborn and said to myself you can do it in the car...................what a moron i am sometimes.The hard part is over as bolting the manifolds and the rest of the kit is easy but wait to you hook up the ic piping and look at the greddy instructions for them.
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Day 2.
Bolted everything up, and we managed to get the motor back in. The problems we had the studs were resolved by using the stock studs. We found that the Greddy studs werent stronger, just shorter for clearance issues on the manifold. We used 2 stock studs in places where we had clearance. Worked out well.
I have to say the Greddy instructions provided might be the worst instructions ever with the worst pictures ever. Im glad I did alot of research prior to all of this.
I switched the oil feed fittings to the "preferred' way with the sensor on the end.
New Pressure Plate, and ACT 6 Puck Race Clutch. Man that will be "fun" to drive...
Comin Together
Driver Side
Oil Pan Spacer and -8N Return Lines
Oil Feed Lines
Trans Back on.
Waste Gates on.
My GF brought my good camera later on...
Ready to go back in...
After some fussin about.
In!
Better shot of spacer
Hi car. You look better.
Clearer shot of Oil Feed lines and sensor.
Return.
Big ****ing Intercooler.
Piping.
Hi Turbos in there..
Wastegates in car.
Old Clutch line, will be replaced with a Kevlar coated line.
Workbench
Tool Cart
Lots of Plastic!
Heat wrapped the harness.
Called it a day.
Hopefully we can button up most of it tomorrow. Wish us luck!
Bolted everything up, and we managed to get the motor back in. The problems we had the studs were resolved by using the stock studs. We found that the Greddy studs werent stronger, just shorter for clearance issues on the manifold. We used 2 stock studs in places where we had clearance. Worked out well.
I have to say the Greddy instructions provided might be the worst instructions ever with the worst pictures ever. Im glad I did alot of research prior to all of this.
I switched the oil feed fittings to the "preferred' way with the sensor on the end.
New Pressure Plate, and ACT 6 Puck Race Clutch. Man that will be "fun" to drive...
Comin Together
Driver Side
Oil Pan Spacer and -8N Return Lines
Oil Feed Lines
Trans Back on.
Waste Gates on.
My GF brought my good camera later on...
Ready to go back in...
After some fussin about.
In!
Better shot of spacer
Hi car. You look better.
Clearer shot of Oil Feed lines and sensor.
Return.
Big ****ing Intercooler.
Piping.
Hi Turbos in there..
Wastegates in car.
Old Clutch line, will be replaced with a Kevlar coated line.
Workbench
Tool Cart
Lots of Plastic!
Heat wrapped the harness.
Called it a day.
Hopefully we can button up most of it tomorrow. Wish us luck!
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Sweet build! Hey just my 2 cents, it looks like one of your oil return lines goes up and then down, not sure how the Greddy's are but I know everyone says return lines should be straight down with as few cures as possible.
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Sweet build! Hey just my 2 cents, it looks like one of your oil return lines goes up and then down, not sure how the Greddy's are but I know everyone says return lines should be straight down with as few cures as possible.
Man what a day...
I'll post up more pics today, I tried to take lots because If I can help anyone with their build I can, I dont know how many times I've used rrmedix pictures. I think his mock up was wrong in some places so that confused me. We'll see...
#27
Day 3.
Today was about as painfull and frustrating as it gets, I think my car pushed Getty (my tech) to his limits, the clearances for everything are rediculous. Today was mostly all the "little stuff" that takes a long time. Seems like every charge pipe took an hour to install. Oh and that Turbo XS Boost Control Solenoid I took shipment of today, yeah it's mising the 3 nipple for the 3rd vaccum line. Awesome.
All the little inconsistancies between the 350Z Kit and G35 showed their ugly faces today, from mounting brackets not lining up, to G35 parts being in the way. We still don't understand this one, the Intercooler instructions say remove the front brace. Never says to re-install it. If my car so much as touches something or I get bumped in a parking lot, it could be a very costly "fender bender"
In hind-sight, that 1K I saved buying a used 350Z kit and making it work with the G35, not worth the headaches. I just hope it starts, and runs Ok.
Once we put the front end back together, we could see the car coming back to life which gave us motivation to keep pushing. All piping is connected, all harnesses and brackets are back on, fuel injectors, plugs, plenum...
We made good progress, just alot of little things though. Still got EMS which I started and already took out the Stock ECU from the car, still have Fuel Pump to install, Boost Controller, Zeitronix, Wiring...
Day 3.
Getty grinding down the top of the Stock Fuel rails, so the larger injectors will clear the plenum. (Stupid, I know)
Fuel Rails on.
Attacking the Stock ECU.
Trying to work in the small space where the turbos are...
We found out that this kit was made for cars that don't have upgraded sways, another one of those gremlins that takes time to fix. We moved the oil line and created the space we need.
Intake Plenum back on...
Greddy TT installation made possible by...
Putting front end back on.
Intake charge pipe with BOV.
Wow kinda looks like a car again...this is promising.
Fitting the IC to the car, Getty had to fab up some magic of his since it seems the 350Z mounting bracket at the top is shorter than what is found on the G35.
Big and juicy!
Piping up to Maf, and Intake.
Elbow from IC to Piping, and up.
Dual Inlet Tank.
Starting to see a light at the end...
Tight fit across the bottom to the driver side turbo.
Piping from turbos into tank.
Thats where we ended it today. Some hiccups from 417 nissan giving me the wrong gaskets, and A/C belts, plus the Boost Controller has me a bit annoyed.
Ahwell, after a dedicated 3 days the schedule is in Gettys hands now.
Today was about as painfull and frustrating as it gets, I think my car pushed Getty (my tech) to his limits, the clearances for everything are rediculous. Today was mostly all the "little stuff" that takes a long time. Seems like every charge pipe took an hour to install. Oh and that Turbo XS Boost Control Solenoid I took shipment of today, yeah it's mising the 3 nipple for the 3rd vaccum line. Awesome.
All the little inconsistancies between the 350Z Kit and G35 showed their ugly faces today, from mounting brackets not lining up, to G35 parts being in the way. We still don't understand this one, the Intercooler instructions say remove the front brace. Never says to re-install it. If my car so much as touches something or I get bumped in a parking lot, it could be a very costly "fender bender"
In hind-sight, that 1K I saved buying a used 350Z kit and making it work with the G35, not worth the headaches. I just hope it starts, and runs Ok.
Once we put the front end back together, we could see the car coming back to life which gave us motivation to keep pushing. All piping is connected, all harnesses and brackets are back on, fuel injectors, plugs, plenum...
We made good progress, just alot of little things though. Still got EMS which I started and already took out the Stock ECU from the car, still have Fuel Pump to install, Boost Controller, Zeitronix, Wiring...
Day 3.
Getty grinding down the top of the Stock Fuel rails, so the larger injectors will clear the plenum. (Stupid, I know)
Fuel Rails on.
Attacking the Stock ECU.
Trying to work in the small space where the turbos are...
We found out that this kit was made for cars that don't have upgraded sways, another one of those gremlins that takes time to fix. We moved the oil line and created the space we need.
Intake Plenum back on...
Greddy TT installation made possible by...
Putting front end back on.
Intake charge pipe with BOV.
Wow kinda looks like a car again...this is promising.
Fitting the IC to the car, Getty had to fab up some magic of his since it seems the 350Z mounting bracket at the top is shorter than what is found on the G35.
Big and juicy!
Piping up to Maf, and Intake.
Elbow from IC to Piping, and up.
Dual Inlet Tank.
Starting to see a light at the end...
Tight fit across the bottom to the driver side turbo.
Piping from turbos into tank.
Thats where we ended it today. Some hiccups from 417 nissan giving me the wrong gaskets, and A/C belts, plus the Boost Controller has me a bit annoyed.
Ahwell, after a dedicated 3 days the schedule is in Gettys hands now.
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Originally Posted by RandomHer0
LOL I know it bothers me too, the other thing that bothers me is losing the front bracing and supports. Is that right? The FMIC doesn't fit unless the supports and brace are removed.
Really??
Really??
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^^ Ya now that all the piping is in, we are looking at it thinking there will be lots of vibration. The other thing is although my manifolds and hot parts are Cermakhrome treated, there is that one coupler on the passenger side turbo that is really close to the manifold. How much heat can those take??
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Originally Posted by RandomHer0
^^ Ya now that all the piping is in, we are looking at it thinking there will be lots of vibration. The other thing is although my manifolds and hot parts are Cermakhrome treated, there is that one coupler on the passenger side turbo that is really close to the manifold. How much heat can those take??
Last edited by 350Z400rwhp; 08-02-2008 at 03:40 PM.
#35
Day 4.
Getty called me, wanted to go work on the car some more today. I was stoked. Ended up not needing longer coupler like I thought I did for the MAF housing to the up-pipe, with some fine tuning of the IC piping it all came together nicely.
Snags for today, need to find some molex connectors, not the molex itself but the metal pins inside to connect my Boost Controller, and MAP Sensor to the UTEC. Also need to find the 3rd fitting for the Boost Controller, Ill check at Canadian Tire tomorrow to see what I can come up with.
On to some pics;
Tools of the trade..
Installing the Air Filter, the awesome way.
Decent.
It be tight in hurr...
Put the rear section of exhaust back on.
The Gettyman welding on my Wideband Sensor bung.
Shes got her face back on!
Stealthy, sadly, no air flow with the stock bumper.
Test Pipes on.
Wideband Sensor.
Wires running up the trans harness to the engine bay.
Wheels back on.
Now some wiring, EGT Probe, Boost Controller, Map Sensor, Wideband...
Easy for Getty, looks OEM.
UTEC Stacked ontop of Stock ECU with Bracket.
Engine Bay.
With some finessing we managed to get the wheel well shrouds on.
Now some plumbing, Vaccuum lines from Wastegates up to the engine bay.
And thats where we leave her for today...
Hi Car.
Getty called me, wanted to go work on the car some more today. I was stoked. Ended up not needing longer coupler like I thought I did for the MAF housing to the up-pipe, with some fine tuning of the IC piping it all came together nicely.
Snags for today, need to find some molex connectors, not the molex itself but the metal pins inside to connect my Boost Controller, and MAP Sensor to the UTEC. Also need to find the 3rd fitting for the Boost Controller, Ill check at Canadian Tire tomorrow to see what I can come up with.
On to some pics;
Tools of the trade..
Installing the Air Filter, the awesome way.
Decent.
It be tight in hurr...
Put the rear section of exhaust back on.
The Gettyman welding on my Wideband Sensor bung.
Shes got her face back on!
Stealthy, sadly, no air flow with the stock bumper.
Test Pipes on.
Wideband Sensor.
Wires running up the trans harness to the engine bay.
Wheels back on.
Now some wiring, EGT Probe, Boost Controller, Map Sensor, Wideband...
Easy for Getty, looks OEM.
UTEC Stacked ontop of Stock ECU with Bracket.
Engine Bay.
With some finessing we managed to get the wheel well shrouds on.
Now some plumbing, Vaccuum lines from Wastegates up to the engine bay.
And thats where we leave her for today...
Hi Car.
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Glad all turned out well BTW dude forget the 3rd fitting on the Boost Control Solenoid no need to find it !! at all, just check this Diagram:
http://www.turboxs.com/utec350zbcsupdate.htm
and also check Andrew`s setup here
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...read-size.html
the one in the middle is left alone !! its vented to atmosphere so no need to connect it anywhere, just move the fitting from the middle to the side and follow the diagram of the plumbing and ur set ooh and for the molex its the same as the ATX Computer Power Supply so just snap it from any used or super low cheapo ATX Power Supply.
BTW i just wanted to know why did u put the BOV right after the MAF ? it should be before it unless ur planing on running a Stand-alone EMS in the near future.
http://www.turboxs.com/utec350zbcsupdate.htm
and also check Andrew`s setup here
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...read-size.html
the one in the middle is left alone !! its vented to atmosphere so no need to connect it anywhere, just move the fitting from the middle to the side and follow the diagram of the plumbing and ur set ooh and for the molex its the same as the ATX Computer Power Supply so just snap it from any used or super low cheapo ATX Power Supply.
BTW i just wanted to know why did u put the BOV right after the MAF ? it should be before it unless ur planing on running a Stand-alone EMS in the near future.
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Originally Posted by RandomHer0
Can anyone tell me what the UTEC MAP Sensor plugs into? Somewhere on the intake manifold?
I have the Turbo XS BCS, and I think the plubming goes something like this.
I know, crappy picture. Does that make sense?
I have the Turbo XS BCS, and I think the plubming goes something like this.
I know, crappy picture. Does that make sense?
From the Intake Manifold ---> Wastegate Side Ports(already done), BOV, MAP Sensor, Boost Gauge.
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Oh ok so the BOV comes from the Intake Plenum too? Wow alot coming from there eh...
Good to know about the BCS too, Ill switch the fitting, I thought "Vent to atmosphere" meant to BOV then it gets vented to Atmosphere.
Also the BOV is after the MAF because it was a used kit, and well...thats how it came. Is that a large problem?
Thanks guys. Almost there...
Good to know about the BCS too, Ill switch the fitting, I thought "Vent to atmosphere" meant to BOV then it gets vented to Atmosphere.
Also the BOV is after the MAF because it was a used kit, and well...thats how it came. Is that a large problem?
Thanks guys. Almost there...
Last edited by RandomHer0; 08-03-2008 at 07:07 AM.
#40
Im trying to figure out the wiring for the Zeitronix too, it has a 12 pin connector with wires. The 12 pin connector on the Zt-2, some of those wires tap into the ECU wires right? Like Green=RPM, ORANGE= Boost (MAP) (where does that tap?), GREY=TPS. Not all of them connect right?
Should I have bought the Zeitronix Map/Boost Sensor as well? Not just the Turbo XS?
I have the service manual with the PIN layouts for ECU...
Should I have bought the Zeitronix Map/Boost Sensor as well? Not just the Turbo XS?
I have the service manual with the PIN layouts for ECU...
Last edited by RandomHer0; 08-03-2008 at 10:39 AM.