As someone who had sleeves and drove my car hard I had reached this conclusion a year ago and I know there are others who have as well. Alberto Im sorry to see you go thru this yet again I hope you stay in and come back like I did but just no sleeves

 

glad to hear you're opinion rome but trust me sleeves are not the problem....

 

See thats where I beg to differ if you can show me someone's car who had sleeves drove their car with over 550 wheel and its lasted over 2 years then I might change my mind but I have yet to see that out of any shop.

 

I don't think I could ever go with a vette. Way to many of them out there.

993 911 Turbo would be my first choice for the price/power

Alberto, just get your car running again and drive it as often as I do. No chance in it breaking lol =)

*knocks on wood*

 

Sure a 911 Turbo would be bad *** but I wouldn't want to think of how much a rebuild would cost with this car I don't think a 400-450hp 911 would feel fast after having 575whp.

 

Romey trust me you think our motors are the only ones effected by improperly installed sleeves and overheats think again plus I know numerous road raced z's and z's with over 100 dyno passes and track passes to prove it. Just because they ante on the forums more that they are on the street doesn't mean they ante out there.when u wanna see them hit me up

 

Thats what I was saying Berto. Get another Z and build and boost it. I dont see what can compare for the money. Maybe a Lotus with a TT kit. I miss my Z so much

 

HAH! Your new family car is pretty damn nice Barzten!

 

Sir, you are so wrong here. His did not blow up, he's just on bigger thing. Did somebody said 9 sec ???

 

The fact is these cars or cars in general, that are modded will eventually have problems the more parts you mod the more that can go wrong. Hell my Superstock engine in my gsxr 1000 is good for 8 to 10 race weekends and its time for a rebuild. I will say that I did learn some lessons with my experiences, some good and some bad. What it comes down to Bert is drawing the line, to some it comes earlier than others.

Bye the way I still hold that 6th Fastest trap of all time in the Z 133mph.. WTF You guys are slacking

 

We all keep blowing up before making it to the track Its the year of the FAIL.

 

yeah

 

LOL have you seen the prices of 993 turbo's.. they are insane for such an old car, I know because its a car I have wanted for a very long time, last gen of air cooled FTW.... but price FTL.... its very hard to find a nice one for a reasonable price, and if they break enjoy the billl.... especially for the power he wants...

and in terms of commanality while there arent that many 993's on the road there are a ton of 996 and 997 turbos all over the place where I live.. so only an enthusiast would be able to tell the difference between those and a 993.. let alone a boxster or cayman.... same is applied to a Z06 sure there are alot of vettes on the road and only an enthusiast could tell the difference between them...but its not different from porches imjustsayin

 

what to say... you know i hate this for you... i know we had to agree to disagree when you were going through this build on the whole sleeved and 1/2" head studs issue... i still, to this day, think that i am correct that these two as a combo are just bad news... sleeves can drop / shift causing coolant in oil, overheating and headlift...and 1/2" head studs are so very hard to get straight and this causes a bad fit of head to block and can cause...yup...coolant in oil, overheating and headlift... i'm hoping this is the case for you and there's no further damage...

you know i am here for you if you need anything...

 

wow this really sucks so soon after the last one, I feel your pain somewhat, I was going through it all when my sleeves gave me an issue and had to disassemble and rebuild the engine due to poor sleeve install.

After that it made me leery and afraid of doing what I had planned on doing with the Z and that was some track events like I had done when she was NA, now I do daily drive it but only get on it every so often.

I like it and enjoy the power but I know what you mean about driving an NA Z and having fun, you can go 100% with it and have fun without concerns of ending up sideways even it if it slow.

Good luck and as mentioned take your time making a decision.

 

Ever drive a mid engine car on backroads?
its not always about the power =) even more so when its power that cant be used unless you're doing highway runs or are running DRs every trip out.....

 

I have driven 911's, 944T's and a 928. There is a very cool feel that Porsche cars give you. I am sure an AWD 911 Turbo is a very easy car to drive and put through it's paces. Being a rear engine car the braking is also amazing. It's basically a 959 only better. I did have an MR2 Turbo and I know how a mid engine car feels on high speed turns and they inspire confidence. I think this whole thread has brought up 3 main topics. 1.Yet again sleeves are now being questioned and from the sounds of things they may cause more trouble than they help on a street car. 2. Built or Stock Block most of our FI Z's are pushing 2-3 times the stock horsepower and things may break. 3. Certian cars have motors that can make 600rwhp without a sweat. The 2JZ in Supras is just simply a stout motor and was way overbuilt in stock form. So are the 05' and up Corvette motors wether it be a base or a ZO-6. Both of these cars can make 600whp very easily. Now personally I think the Z is a better car over the Corvette in terms of seats and the interior. That wand the questional build quality of the Corvette made me steer towards the Z and that's why I bought one. Supras are too old and finding a good one is very hard and they are expensive. All I was saying is that in the end we all want a very fast car and 5-600RWHP seems to be the magic number to keep the excitement and not get bored. When you push to these levels with a Z you better have very deep pockets and still there are no gaurantees. I simply mention the Vette because it is a decent looking car and a 5-6psi supercharger will yield 600hp without any drama. For this reason only I think its a more cost effective way to go but to each their own as there are great qualaties about the Z. I'm not getting rid of mine anytime soon but it if blew up tomorrow I would really consider buying a Vette just because it has a bigger motor and they are affordable. Anyway sorry to go a little off topic.

 

What was your E.T. on that pass again?

 

Ouch

I recently went through a situation with emissions. Long story short I failed on purpose to get an extension and keep my tags from being suspended.

I have to go back before the end of January, so I may fix the fans so the car wont overheat(again), NOT BOOST IT and drive to station to fail again - this time with a "receipt" of work done and a 2yr extension.

Or I just sell this POS, avoid that headache and many more in the future and move on

 

would hate to see u go.. been following ur car since back in the turbonetics days. But you gotta do whats YOU feel is best.