An alignment guy that wont do what your paying him to do with YOUR car is a fool IMO. Ive dealt with a few shops, all have done what Ive asked, and all the guys would say "you need more traction in a straight line huh?"

I have never heard or read anybody say what that guy told you. Not giving the rear more positive camber due to the front sounds like a guy that wanted to go to lunch early that day lol...also while its not a huge difference a good shop will put the drivers weight in the car when performing an alignment.

 

Yep, haven't been able to find much on the topic researching on my own. Thanks for that insight... gives me reason to go to another place and get everything checked out.

 

I run -.5 in the rear and the handling is still pretty decent. Floaty with the DRs but I think it would be good on normal street tires.

 

Gran Turismo East did my alignment with me in the car. They do alot of track cars and high end street cars. Very cool guys.

 

Well..I have always ran more neg in the front than rear...street or track. As far as the SPL arms .... why not install it You can never have too many adjustment options

Its true.....same goes for adjustable shocks...stiffer up front. Never have the front softer than rear.


Is your car a track car only? Normally you dont do it that way for street cars because of having someone besides yourself in the car....which throws it off.

 

because people are dumb and they spew garbage trying to sound smart.

 

Hey Berto, what aftermarket camber kit do you have?

 

hey gotchick, care to share with us the setting you got from the gran tourismo shop?

 

I have Kinetix camber/traction rods AND SPC toe bolts.

Without the toe bolts and my old drop I couldnt get more positive than -2 degrees rear. After raising the rear a little and putting in the toe bolts, car can be in spec at -1 degree, I personally wouldnt want more positive camber on this car.

 

Yeah, I'm at -2.2 camber all around. Pretty standard. I also had to install rear camber arms (went with stillen) because I'm lowered on coil-overs.

Edit: I didn't do toe bolts and it still lined up great. But I have no idea how much more adjustment is left. Probably not much, but mine isn't that extreme...

Butler did my first alignment and they sucked. Alignment was off, car didn't feel solid at all, and they said they couldn't get it any closer. As was already mentioned by rcdash, they wouldn't work with me.

I've been to Gran Turismo East a few times, and those guys totally rock!

 

^ yea dude. some shop mechanics are just plain too annoying when it comes to fitting larger tyres.

anyways, thanks a lot for the detailed info bro!!! reason is, im gonna get me a set of camber arms soon.

 

SPC makes good and inexpensive camber arms, if you can find them. Kinetix and Stillen are probably better but a lot more expensive.

 

Bello Motorsport Tire in West Palm Beach did my camber, toe and aligntment last week before Sebring. I asked for a road course setup. I just spoke with Earnie and they set my front camber a little over two degrees and my rear camber a little under two degrees. It handled phenomilly. I detected no understeer or oversteer. In the few corners I went into a little hot, the car did a four wheel slide. Since you are more concerned with straight line performance, you probably should back these down by a degree or so.

Good choice on the R888's , especially since you live in a predominantly dry environment. I have 305/30/19s in the rear, and they stuck like h*ll when the track was dry. If it starts raining, however, take it very, very easy. I slowed way down in the rain, but the back end still came around on me twice.

I have Pilot Cup Sports in the front because Toyo doesn't make the R888s in 265/30/19. They seemed to be a tad bit better in the rain (since the rear end broke loose first), but it was my first time on the track, so I'll reserve judgement until I get more experience. Also, if you can get 275s in the front (it depends on your wheel size), they should fit. Unfortunately, neither the R888s or Pilot Cup Sports come in a 275 width for my 19" diameter wheels.

 

i took some pic's today, just looking at my camber and seeing my contact patch/wear on my rear tires what kind of camber do you think i am running in the back "ball park"? reason being is i have been doing alot of research on do it yourself aligments. the articles are very informative and it can be accomplished with readily available tooling. i am willing to take a stab at it even if it takes me a whole weekend and some! after i feel i have gotten the spec's that i am looking for i may have it checked at a reputible aligment shop to DOUBLE CHECK my settings. one of the articles is a step by step procedure that is performed on a 240sx which is great due to it has a similar suspension system to the z " rear irs ".

 

I forgot you were still on the kumhos.. let's go burn them out next month.

 

let me get this camber problem sorted out first.........