My Build: The Good, The Bad & The Progress
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Looking For Some Help!!
I need to mock up my new Stillen Fascia, has anyone done this themselves before? I need a little guideance:
Do you start in the middle and work your way to the sides (it has no pre-drilled mounting holes)?
How do you adjust the small gaps along the headlights?
Do you shim the headlights?
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to cut out the step of having the body shop do fitment since the car doesn't run and it would have to be done after the motor swap and tune, so more down time. The Stillen catalog rates it as a job for professionals only, but I'm not planning on cutting anything, it matches up pretty well, just some gaps around the bottom corner of the headlights, but I installed the lights so they would match up with the hood and fenders.
I need to mock up my new Stillen Fascia, has anyone done this themselves before? I need a little guideance:
Do you start in the middle and work your way to the sides (it has no pre-drilled mounting holes)?
How do you adjust the small gaps along the headlights?
Do you shim the headlights?
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to cut out the step of having the body shop do fitment since the car doesn't run and it would have to be done after the motor swap and tune, so more down time. The Stillen catalog rates it as a job for professionals only, but I'm not planning on cutting anything, it matches up pretty well, just some gaps around the bottom corner of the headlights, but I installed the lights so they would match up with the hood and fenders.
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You decided to go with the Vi-PEC? I just got mine installed last week it seems to be working fine. We got the car running on the Vi-PEC the Vi-PEC is controlling the drive by wire on its own(with out the factory ECU) and I think my tuner will tune it this week (so he has a base map for the future) then we are swapping the engine hopefully next week.
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You decided to go with the Vi-PEC? I just got mine installed last week it seems to be working fine. We got the car running on the Vi-PEC the Vi-PEC is controlling the drive by wire on its own(with out the factory ECU) and I think my tuner will tune it this week (so he has a base map for the future) then we are swapping the engine hopefully next week.
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I am excited as well I dreamed up everything i would want an EMS to do and my tuner kept saying "it can do that", "it can do that". I will let you know how the tune goes it should be this week. If he gets busy I can see it getting put off but I will keep you updated. You might have a final tune before me I still am waiting on my engine should be ready to go next week I am pulling and installing the engine myself so that might take longer than average and havent decided on 850bb or 700bb turbos yet.
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Nice to see you chose the ViPEC. As the North American Training Center for the VIPEC I am sure you will be exceptionally pleased. We have now installed and have most of the features up and running for the 350Z and G35. We have finished with all the drive by wire functions. There will be a plug and play system available within the next couple weeks. If you or your tuner have any questions please feel free to call us at 1-866-95-VIPEC or you can email me at cam@lightspeedinnovations.com.
Cam Koole
Technical Services Consultant
ViPEC TRAINING CENTER
Lightspeed Innovations
1-866-95-VIPEC
For more information about ViPEC and or upcoming ViPEC training sessions please email cam@lightspeedinnovations.com
Cam Koole
Technical Services Consultant
ViPEC TRAINING CENTER
Lightspeed Innovations
1-866-95-VIPEC
For more information about ViPEC and or upcoming ViPEC training sessions please email cam@lightspeedinnovations.com
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Please email me for pricing we didn't come here to advertise merely support those already using . The ECU used in the plug and play will be the V88 that way we will actually have true drive by wire control.
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I had a similar experience in that the Vi-PEC seems to be capable of everything I wanted to do.
V88 ViPEC?
I wanted my build to be a bit different than all the others out there and this was one of those decisions (the turbos turned out that way, but not by choice). If this EMS works out then we may possibly have another viable choice for members looking for stand alones. Dave recommended over the Autronic because it has knock control, drive by wire throttle control and better support service.
The EMS stuff, like the turbo techno speak is way above my head as I am still learning as much as I can in such a short time. I put my trust in Frank and Dave and hope for the best at this point. The Haltech was a very close second and I thank Hal@IP for answering all my questions - if this EMS turns out to be a FAIL, I will be heading straight to Haltech with the quickness.
Last edited by Cass007; 02-18-2009 at 05:10 AM.
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Vi-PEC info
http://www.vi-pec.com/page_files/V88.html
V88 Model ECU
The ViPEC V88 is our most advanced ECU. This ECU has many features which allow it to be setup to suit various types of engine configurations. It has very flexible options over how the inputs and outputs are controlled, and allows the user to design their own functions to control all sorts of devices. Precise control of injectors and ignition angle are guaranteed at very low or high RPM or manifold pressures. A very high level of protection from interference and tolerance of trigger input errors has been built into this ECU, ensuring a smooth running engine even under the most demanding conditions.
Variable camshaft control for up to four camshaft. Control of camshaft position is very precise and time taken to advance from full retard to full advance is less the 1 second. Support for VVT and VANOS systems.
Closed loop control of idle speed and boost pressure makes for a "factory" idle speed stability, and precise control of boost pressure. Boost control can be setup to provide a different boost in each gear.
Knock control with support for two sensors. Knock control is user definable with flexible settings to allow precise knock control.
E-Throttle (Electronic Throttle Control).
Peak and hold injector drivers are 10 amp. Both the peak Amps and hold Amps can be set separately in the software for optimum injector control. See setup screen.
Feature Comparison for V44, V88 and plug-in ECU
HARDWARE:
Main Connector 2 x 34 Pin waterproof.
USB data link connector plus CAN
Case, silver extruded aluminium, 169 x 172 x 42 mm (overall).
40 MHz Specialised Automotive Microprocessor.
Ignition control to 0.1 degree, fuel to 0.01 ms -
32 Bit Calculation -
10 Bit ADC Resolution
Max 20000 RPM
ECU to PC data link operates at up to 115k baud for fast cal down load & Log file upload (19sec typ for 112k bytes). 112k logging memory.
Internal Diagnostic light & optional remote light.
High efficiency power supply & output drivers for reduced power consumption and reduced self-heating.
Eight ignition outputs. Secquential to 8 cylinders and wasted spark up to 16 cylnders.
Software selectable mappable dwell or O/P pulse duration modes possible.
Eight coil dwell, software selectable.
Eight high current injector outputs.
Spare injector and ignition outputs can be used for output control.
10 Auxiliary Outputs
11 Digital Inputs
4 Temperature Inputs
11 Analog Inputs
3 Load Inputs (MAP, TPS, MAF)
2 Trigger Inputs (Reluctor, Optical or Hall Sensors)
2 Knock Inputs
Support for Reluctor and Hall effect crank and cam sensers.
Camshaft & crankshaft sensor inputs individually software configurable for hall effect & reluctor sensor types. Response speed is also software configurable for improved noise immunity.
Eleven general purpose digital Inputs with logic level sensitivity & pullup to +5volts. Useable for speed measurement. Switch I/Ps. Four are useable for Camshaft position measurement.
Knock control with support for two sensors.
Variable Camshaft control for up to four camshafts. VANOS and other VVT and VVT-i supported.
NTC or PTC air temp sensors, software selectable.
External 2.5 bar or 7 bar map sensor, software selectable.
Stepper motor idle control, two and three wire idle control.
Support for most idle valve type including 2 wire, 3 wire & stepper possible. Stepper pins can be used for spare outputs if not used for idle control.
Support for air flow meters.
Internal barometric pressure sensor.
Tacho & Diagnostic outputs.
E-Throttle (DBW, Fly by wire) option. No external controller required. The throttle control is built into the V88.
SOFTWARE:
Launch Control (two step rev limiter based on vehicle speed).
Flatshift (change gears without clutch at WOT using standard gearbox).
Antilag (keep turbocharger on boost during gear changes) with turbo cooldown function.
Selectable ignition tables.
Up to 440 Zone Fuel Table with configurable load and RPM centres. MGP, MAP and load options.
5D Fuel Mapping.
Many correction tables for precision fuel & ignition adaption.
Digital Trigger Decoding.
Reluctor, Optical or Hall Sensors.
Programmable filtering and arming thresholds.
Configurable trigger patterns or preset triggering options, such as, Multi tooth, missing tooth, Subaru, Mazda, Nissan, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Ford and GM and Motronic.
Support for two, three or four rotor engines with ignition split.
Dedicated idle control with additional settings for better adaption to changing operating condition and a more stable idle.
Open loop boost control, switch boost pressures, different boost in each gear.
A/C compressor control.
Closed loop narrow band.
Closed loop wideband at WOT.
Tacho and speedo sweep function.
Cooling fan control.
General purpose control modules for O/P control. (use for variable fuel pump, power steering, inlet manifold air valves, extra temperature control devices etc) some of these are capable of PID feedback control.
Mapping via manifold pressure, throttle position, manifold and throttle or manifold.
Fly by wire throttle control will full control over the settings and operation.
Case Dimensions:
L = 167mm (6-1/2")
W = 172mm (5")
H = 42mm (1-5/8")
Weight = 0.7kg (1.5 lbs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specifications:
Microcomputer . 40 MHz Specialised Automotive
Microprocessor
Supply Voltage Normal operation
Safe limits 6.2V to 23V DC continuous
+/- 24V (5 min)
+/- 80V alternator load dump (0.5 sec).
+/- 1000V inductive spike (10 usec)
Current Drain @ Engine idle
@ Max Engine Load < 1 Amp.
< 16 Amp (less depending on injector type and number.
Operating Temperature Range
Min
Max - 40 deg C.
+ 85 deg C.
Engine Cylinder Number Settings Number of cylinders 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 12
Engine RPM Range 0 to 20,000 RPM Engines up to 12 cylinders
Injection Duration Timing Min
Max
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0.65 msec.
50 msec.
+/- < (10 usec + 1%)
0.1% approx.
Injection Timing Range
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0 to 720 deg (crank angle).
+/- < (1.4 deg + 0.3 msec).
2.8 deg.
Ignition Timing Advance range
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0 to 45 deg (crank angle).
+/- 0.2 deg (crank angle).
0.5 deg (crank angle).
Fuel Delivery and Ignition Mapping No. Load sites
No. RPM sites 16 (max). Both Load and RPM sites
32 (max). are freely selectable.
Data Logging Memory Size 4MB
Size L * W * H 167 * 127 * 42mm
Weight . 0.5 kg
Connectors . 2 x 34 way 'AMP' water and dust proof socket
V88 Model ECU
The ViPEC V88 is our most advanced ECU. This ECU has many features which allow it to be setup to suit various types of engine configurations. It has very flexible options over how the inputs and outputs are controlled, and allows the user to design their own functions to control all sorts of devices. Precise control of injectors and ignition angle are guaranteed at very low or high RPM or manifold pressures. A very high level of protection from interference and tolerance of trigger input errors has been built into this ECU, ensuring a smooth running engine even under the most demanding conditions.
Variable camshaft control for up to four camshaft. Control of camshaft position is very precise and time taken to advance from full retard to full advance is less the 1 second. Support for VVT and VANOS systems.
Closed loop control of idle speed and boost pressure makes for a "factory" idle speed stability, and precise control of boost pressure. Boost control can be setup to provide a different boost in each gear.
Knock control with support for two sensors. Knock control is user definable with flexible settings to allow precise knock control.
E-Throttle (Electronic Throttle Control).
Peak and hold injector drivers are 10 amp. Both the peak Amps and hold Amps can be set separately in the software for optimum injector control. See setup screen.
Feature Comparison for V44, V88 and plug-in ECU
HARDWARE:
Main Connector 2 x 34 Pin waterproof.
USB data link connector plus CAN
Case, silver extruded aluminium, 169 x 172 x 42 mm (overall).
40 MHz Specialised Automotive Microprocessor.
Ignition control to 0.1 degree, fuel to 0.01 ms -
32 Bit Calculation -
10 Bit ADC Resolution
Max 20000 RPM
ECU to PC data link operates at up to 115k baud for fast cal down load & Log file upload (19sec typ for 112k bytes). 112k logging memory.
Internal Diagnostic light & optional remote light.
High efficiency power supply & output drivers for reduced power consumption and reduced self-heating.
Eight ignition outputs. Secquential to 8 cylinders and wasted spark up to 16 cylnders.
Software selectable mappable dwell or O/P pulse duration modes possible.
Eight coil dwell, software selectable.
Eight high current injector outputs.
Spare injector and ignition outputs can be used for output control.
10 Auxiliary Outputs
11 Digital Inputs
4 Temperature Inputs
11 Analog Inputs
3 Load Inputs (MAP, TPS, MAF)
2 Trigger Inputs (Reluctor, Optical or Hall Sensors)
2 Knock Inputs
Support for Reluctor and Hall effect crank and cam sensers.
Camshaft & crankshaft sensor inputs individually software configurable for hall effect & reluctor sensor types. Response speed is also software configurable for improved noise immunity.
Eleven general purpose digital Inputs with logic level sensitivity & pullup to +5volts. Useable for speed measurement. Switch I/Ps. Four are useable for Camshaft position measurement.
Knock control with support for two sensors.
Variable Camshaft control for up to four camshafts. VANOS and other VVT and VVT-i supported.
NTC or PTC air temp sensors, software selectable.
External 2.5 bar or 7 bar map sensor, software selectable.
Stepper motor idle control, two and three wire idle control.
Support for most idle valve type including 2 wire, 3 wire & stepper possible. Stepper pins can be used for spare outputs if not used for idle control.
Support for air flow meters.
Internal barometric pressure sensor.
Tacho & Diagnostic outputs.
E-Throttle (DBW, Fly by wire) option. No external controller required. The throttle control is built into the V88.
SOFTWARE:
Launch Control (two step rev limiter based on vehicle speed).
Flatshift (change gears without clutch at WOT using standard gearbox).
Antilag (keep turbocharger on boost during gear changes) with turbo cooldown function.
Selectable ignition tables.
Up to 440 Zone Fuel Table with configurable load and RPM centres. MGP, MAP and load options.
5D Fuel Mapping.
Many correction tables for precision fuel & ignition adaption.
Digital Trigger Decoding.
Reluctor, Optical or Hall Sensors.
Programmable filtering and arming thresholds.
Configurable trigger patterns or preset triggering options, such as, Multi tooth, missing tooth, Subaru, Mazda, Nissan, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Ford and GM and Motronic.
Support for two, three or four rotor engines with ignition split.
Dedicated idle control with additional settings for better adaption to changing operating condition and a more stable idle.
Open loop boost control, switch boost pressures, different boost in each gear.
A/C compressor control.
Closed loop narrow band.
Closed loop wideband at WOT.
Tacho and speedo sweep function.
Cooling fan control.
General purpose control modules for O/P control. (use for variable fuel pump, power steering, inlet manifold air valves, extra temperature control devices etc) some of these are capable of PID feedback control.
Mapping via manifold pressure, throttle position, manifold and throttle or manifold.
Fly by wire throttle control will full control over the settings and operation.
Case Dimensions:
L = 167mm (6-1/2")
W = 172mm (5")
H = 42mm (1-5/8")
Weight = 0.7kg (1.5 lbs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specifications:
Microcomputer . 40 MHz Specialised Automotive
Microprocessor
Supply Voltage Normal operation
Safe limits 6.2V to 23V DC continuous
+/- 24V (5 min)
+/- 80V alternator load dump (0.5 sec).
+/- 1000V inductive spike (10 usec)
Current Drain @ Engine idle
@ Max Engine Load < 1 Amp.
< 16 Amp (less depending on injector type and number.
Operating Temperature Range
Min
Max - 40 deg C.
+ 85 deg C.
Engine Cylinder Number Settings Number of cylinders 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 12
Engine RPM Range 0 to 20,000 RPM Engines up to 12 cylinders
Injection Duration Timing Min
Max
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0.65 msec.
50 msec.
+/- < (10 usec + 1%)
0.1% approx.
Injection Timing Range
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0 to 720 deg (crank angle).
+/- < (1.4 deg + 0.3 msec).
2.8 deg.
Ignition Timing Advance range
Accuracy
Settingresolution 0 to 45 deg (crank angle).
+/- 0.2 deg (crank angle).
0.5 deg (crank angle).
Fuel Delivery and Ignition Mapping No. Load sites
No. RPM sites 16 (max). Both Load and RPM sites
32 (max). are freely selectable.
Data Logging Memory Size 4MB
Size L * W * H 167 * 127 * 42mm
Weight . 0.5 kg
Connectors . 2 x 34 way 'AMP' water and dust proof socket
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On a slightly lighter note, here is what happens when your wife checks the paypal account for something she ordered and sees your $5250 motor purchase that you failed to mention. You end up with these to teach you a lesson
Attachment 216904 Attachment 216905
Needless to say, another lesson has been learned the hard way.
Attachment 216904 Attachment 216905
Needless to say, another lesson has been learned the hard way.
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To avoid explaining my car expenditures, my wife an I agreed to establish separate accounts for our "want items". Her's: shoes,jewery Mine: Cars
If you don't have the necessary funds; you can't get what you want. Problem solved!
I had a good chuckle about the new washer.
If you don't have the necessary funds; you can't get what you want. Problem solved!
I had a good chuckle about the new washer.
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