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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blueper4mancez
romey you got some strong faith man , if i went through what you have been through i would've gone insane , anyways goodluck with you new setup , seems like it's gonna be a monster .

btw keep in mind about the intercooler deal we had in pm.
thanks man i wont say it was easy choosing to go back down this road again however. Some times you gotta just get back on the horse and try again by putting your faith in the RIGHT people
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy@Altered
Probably switching it over to the whole HR coolant passage through the lower runners.

I looked into doing that, but the heads are slighty further apart on the HR motor. you could grind and open things up to make the HR rear coolant pipe fiit, but then you also have the issue of getting hose through the timing cover opening, too. the opening is much smaller on the DE thsan the HR..........
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Good stuff Romey, I'm glad there appears to be light at the end of the tunnel!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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For everyone who is asking.......i will be tuning this engine with my old atari 2600 tuning data base.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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For everyone who is asking.......i will be tuning this engine with my old atari 2600 tuning data base.
can we play space invaders after?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Big props rome!!!! I cant wait until it's done bro i feel happy for you man.

Philly cheesesteaks runs back in effect ftw!!!! lol
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by r0mey
can we play space invaders after?
Im sorry as i had to disable that function to tune your car.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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So you shipped your car to GTM?? Just wondering who is doing the install/tune.. Thanx..
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
So you shipped your car to GTM?? Just wondering who is doing the install/tune.. Thanx..
Matt at Perry's Auto is doing his install (Julian's former MRC business partner). He hasn't said who is doing the tune yet.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Our 4.0 L stroker is a combination of larger bore 97mm (stock is 95.5 mm) and a 90 mm stroked crank. This combination can be done with out sleeving the block and maintaining a good bore to stroke ratio. Also of course this will be more cost effective since we are not sleeving the block. And lastly with this combination we are stilll able to utilize the the new HR head gaskets.

600 RWHP 600 RWTQ Output at 12 psi on pump gas .

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Any longevity/reliability concerns about running high boost/high power on thinner stock sleeves that have been slightly bored? Isn't that structurally weaker than a stock bore on stock sleeves?

I imagine it's fine for low boost apps, but what about high boost and applications well over 600whp?
^ ^ Am I the only one wondering about this??? I hope Sam or George addresses this question about their non-sleeved 4.0L.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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Thanks Rude..
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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AAM tunes F-Cons? Who is the tuner there? Clint? Mike? JT?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
^ ^ Am I the only one wondering about this??? I hope Sam or George addresses this question about their non-sleeved 4.0L.
All the common .020 builds result in 96mm bores. A jump to 97mm bore should not be an issue.

Interestingly enough, the HKS VQ35 gasket is set at 97mm. I just havent seen any issues yet, with .020, or .040 in terms of cylinder wall stability, cracking, or HG failures even at 96.5mm. Another .5mm should be easily doable, IMHO.

Personally, I would take my chances with an unsleeve 97mm block, rather than a 96mm sleeved block.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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WOW wonder why you were sellin your TT kit. Congrat rOmey

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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Wasnt it GTM that gave you 2 bum blocks and a defective set of cams in the first place?. I remember my brother said he had some serious hours in your car (Oliver), More than mine lol..
This could get taken the wrong way, but I was just curious..

Congratulations on the new build, its gonna be a beast
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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^ Uh oh... Not this ish again.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Driver06
Wasnt it GTM that gave you 2 bum blocks and a defective set of cams in the first place?. I remember my brother said he had some serious hours in your car (Oliver), More than mine lol..
This could get taken the wrong way, but I was just curious..

Congratulations on the new build, its gonna be a beast
No my first block didnt lift their heads on the dyno because of GTM. And when my second motor was pulled and inspected by the third party wasnt their fault either. I havent spoken to your brother in so long tell him to text me he was a cool cat. The cams were warrentied so what more could I really ask for?
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
All the common .020 builds result in 96mm bores. A jump to 97mm bore should not be an issue.

Interestingly enough, the HKS VQ35 gasket is set at 97mm. I just havent seen any issues yet, with .020, or .040 in terms of cylinder wall stability, cracking, or HG failures even at 96.5mm. Another .5mm should be easily doable, IMHO.

Personally, I would take my chances with an unsleeve 97mm block, rather than a 96mm sleeved block.
Hmmm... I still wonder about high boost and power above 700whp. I wish r0mey would shed some light on his power goals with this setup, but I think he is keeping that on the downlow for ZDayZ.
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
^ ^ Am I the only one wondering about this??? I hope Sam or George addresses this question about their non-sleeved 4.0L.
I think to this day nobody really knows what is the longevity or reliability of stock sleeves at high boost/high power (700,800,900 whp.)

You could bore the block over 97 mm. We have chosen to stop at this point so we don't compromise the structure of the block, also we have several engines over seas running this combination with out reporting any problems some of them are pure track cars, I hope they chime in.

Keep in mind the advantage of having a stroked engine is that you can get quite bit more power with less boost and it is a torque monster... it is all in the torque.

so no concerns with this set up

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Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
I think to this day nobody really knows what is the longevity or reliability of stock sleeves at high boost/high power (700,800,900 whp.)

You could bore the block over 97 mm. We have chosen to stop at this point so we don't compromise the structure of the block, also we have several engines over seas running this combination with out reporting any problems some of them are pure track cars, I hope they chime in.

Keep in mind the advantage of having a stroked engine is that you can get quite bit more power with less boost and it is a torque monster... it is all in the torque.

so no concerns with this set up

Sam
Yeah, I imagine this would be a great road race setup on low boost. I know Intense certainly pushed the envelope on the stock sleeves with their widebody G with 906whp on the dyno and multiple 700whp passes in the 1/4 mile. But that was with only a .020 overbore.

I just get the impression that r0mey is going for bigger power than his previous setup. Maybe I'm wrong. That's why I was wondering how this motor will hold up to high boost and 700+ whp.
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