Scott Bush & Relentless Autosports: Exposing the Hype, Lies, and Failure
03-04-2009, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by INTENSEPOWER
This is very simple. You or any ONE person provide us with what Tim and all of the legitimate shops on this board are requesting:
1. Address and telephone number of RA's physical location
2. EPA license
3. Business license
4. Re-seller permit
EVERY shop who has posted in this thread can provide this info. We can take baby steps if that helps you: Just post the answer for #1. At that point we will move to #2.
This post is written in English, and, as I've always done well with communications (whether via emails, PM's, posts, or telephone -- and I beg anyone to show me some evidence that is counter to my claim!) the LEAST of the above requests shouldn't be at all difficult to be provided.
Please let me know if I am unclear whatsoever in even the most minute detail (this request applies to ANYONE who is posting in defense of RA/SB). I will continue to post this reply to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who posts in favor or defense of RA/SB in this thread until the answers are available.
Yes, I have the right to request and require this information. As a paying vendor for close to 5 years now on various boards in this industry, as well as being a legitimate brick & mortar shop for the past 10 years, I have a right to press ANYONE who is marketing their "business" on this board -- as it exists, (even in the slightest) as a competition to mine and every other legitimate business who PAYS DUES to deserve the right to work on customers cars and market themselves in this community.
No more smoke and mirrors failed b.s. Sack up, or stfu.
Darren
1. Address and telephone number of RA's physical location
2. EPA license
3. Business license
4. Re-seller permit
EVERY shop who has posted in this thread can provide this info. We can take baby steps if that helps you: Just post the answer for #1. At that point we will move to #2.
This post is written in English, and, as I've always done well with communications (whether via emails, PM's, posts, or telephone -- and I beg anyone to show me some evidence that is counter to my claim!) the LEAST of the above requests shouldn't be at all difficult to be provided.
Please let me know if I am unclear whatsoever in even the most minute detail (this request applies to ANYONE who is posting in defense of RA/SB). I will continue to post this reply to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who posts in favor or defense of RA/SB in this thread until the answers are available.
Yes, I have the right to request and require this information. As a paying vendor for close to 5 years now on various boards in this industry, as well as being a legitimate brick & mortar shop for the past 10 years, I have a right to press ANYONE who is marketing their "business" on this board -- as it exists, (even in the slightest) as a competition to mine and every other legitimate business who PAYS DUES to deserve the right to work on customers cars and market themselves in this community.
No more smoke and mirrors failed b.s. Sack up, or stfu.
Darren
xxg35girlxx,
I realize that you trust Scott implicitly and that you have a personal realtionship with him. But please believe us when I tell you that many of us here on my350z have witnessed untruthfullness in his posts on several occasions.
Case in point:
Scott has claimed in numerous posts, both during his tenure with VRT and since he formed RA, that the JWT 700bb kit is capable of 800whp.
Here is one of Scott's own quotes that Jorge posted earlier in this thread. As you can see in the link, that post by Scott is from 2006.
https://my350z.com/forum/2851288-post14.html
Here is the problem with Scott's claim:
The turbos in the 700bb kit are not capable of flowing enough CFM to produce 800whp. It is technically impossible. The community called BS on Scott for this claim numerous times, but Scott staunchly stood by his assertion... EVEN AFTER LEAVING VRT. Outside of VRT and RA, I don't think a single member of the VQ community has legitimately made over 700 whp with the JWT 700bb kit.
Cars that made over 700whp with the JWT kit were running the 850bb turbos, including XKR and Eagletanggreen (Luie). Both were also running twin fuel pumps with return fuel systems and full stand alone EMS. Also noteworthy is that both Luie and Mike ditched the standard JWT intercooler and single intake setup for a Greddy FMIC and twin intakes to achieve those power levels.
Ask any of the industry experts and other shops. They will tell you the same about the power capabilities of the 700bb turbos. If you don't want to believe a "rival" shop, call Jim Wolf himself or call a Garrett turbo distributor like Blouch Turbo. They will confirm what I'm telling you.
I realize that you trust Scott implicitly and that you have a personal realtionship with him. But please believe us when I tell you that many of us here on my350z have witnessed untruthfullness in his posts on several occasions.
Case in point:
Scott has claimed in numerous posts, both during his tenure with VRT and since he formed RA, that the JWT 700bb kit is capable of 800whp.
Here is one of Scott's own quotes that Jorge posted earlier in this thread. As you can see in the link, that post by Scott is from 2006.
https://my350z.com/forum/2851288-post14.html
Here is the problem with Scott's claim:
The turbos in the 700bb kit are not capable of flowing enough CFM to produce 800whp. It is technically impossible. The community called BS on Scott for this claim numerous times, but Scott staunchly stood by his assertion... EVEN AFTER LEAVING VRT. Outside of VRT and RA, I don't think a single member of the VQ community has legitimately made over 700 whp with the JWT 700bb kit.
Cars that made over 700whp with the JWT kit were running the 850bb turbos, including XKR and Eagletanggreen (Luie). Both were also running twin fuel pumps with return fuel systems and full stand alone EMS. Also noteworthy is that both Luie and Mike ditched the standard JWT intercooler and single intake setup for a Greddy FMIC and twin intakes to achieve those power levels.
Ask any of the industry experts and other shops. They will tell you the same about the power capabilities of the 700bb turbos. If you don't want to believe a "rival" shop, call Jim Wolf himself or call a Garrett turbo distributor like Blouch Turbo. They will confirm what I'm telling you.
from the RA camp.
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03-04-2009, 03:03 PM
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you guys really want to know why we know Scott is full of ****?
here is a blast from the past
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...p-on-a-vq.html
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4030591-post25.html
Date: 7/6/2007
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4031311-post36.html
Date: 7/6/2007
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4046288-post75.html
Date: 7/10/2007
here is a totally different post.. but yeah.. watch the Time Line
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...-finals-2.html
Notice someone asks Scott how much the car makes and his reponse
Post: https://my350z.com/forum/4936768-post23.html
Date: 1/5/2008
notice he has made mid 700's.. and still no dyno sheet.. and the original thread is still closed
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4937749-post30.html
Date: 1/5/2008
here is a blast from the past
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...p-on-a-vq.html
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4030591-post25.html
Date: 7/6/2007
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
I hear you. Just made 749.?? WHP a couple hours ago, in 95 degree wheather on JWT's dynapac @ only 20 psi (without even trying) we are just trying to tune it a little better for this weekends Time Attack (it is going to be 109 deg. there). Thats why SinCity is asking....
Wasn't going to let the cat out of the bag just yet, but I got a wild hair . This is a VQ35 (non-stroked) with S2 cams (still), with the GT30's and the JWT clutch and flywheel (still returnless, for now). Jusy waiting for the new cams to be made and the tripple carbon clutch to come in before we turn the boost up..... then "for all the sceptics" we will run it (untouched) on a couple different shops dynos for a reference for you all.
Gotta go........... Off to Willow Springs............... Those of you that are going, we will see you there.
Wasn't going to let the cat out of the bag just yet, but I got a wild hair . This is a VQ35 (non-stroked) with S2 cams (still), with the GT30's and the JWT clutch and flywheel (still returnless, for now). Jusy waiting for the new cams to be made and the tripple carbon clutch to come in before we turn the boost up..... then "for all the sceptics" we will run it (untouched) on a couple different shops dynos for a reference for you all.
Gotta go........... Off to Willow Springs............... Those of you that are going, we will see you there.
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4031311-post36.html
Date: 7/6/2007
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
If nobody believes me, does anyone care to make a wager on if we can hit the 800+ WHP mark on a Dynojet with this 3.5 car here pretty soon?? I could sure use the money to fund some of our upcomming projects.
Any takers, please, please PM me
Any takers, please, please PM me
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4046288-post75.html
Date: 7/10/2007
Originally Posted by SinCity350z
Here's the deal, I am going to close this thread before we start getting blamed for what VRT has done. If anybody has an issue with that, PM me. Until then, this topic is dead until we have the supporting mods, a new tune, and a DynoJet sheet that reads well over 750whp.
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...-finals-2.html
Notice someone asks Scott how much the car makes and his reponse
Post: https://my350z.com/forum/4936768-post23.html
Date: 1/5/2008
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
684 whp @ 20psi. Once a couple more issues are adressed on the car that the cams created, I am sure we will be in the mid 700's to 800's.
The cams did benefit us on the fact that the car gets into boost quite a bit quicker than with the S2 cams.
The cams did benefit us on the fact that the car gets into boost quite a bit quicker than with the S2 cams.
post: https://my350z.com/forum/4937749-post30.html
Date: 1/5/2008
Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
We have not ever made 800 whp on any car (YET ), nor have we claimed to. We have made in the low to mid 700's though, and no. These new monster cams have not seen more than 68? whp, we are starving for air through the standard JWT TT FMIC that we are still using. We will be changing the IC out here in the comming months along as a bunch of other stuff.
03-04-2009, 03:12 PM
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Not fair Doug....you are using his post to prove your point....You are not giving them a way out....not fair Doug....
I have two questions...
1) Is it too late to make that wager with Scott??
2) Should I ask Sharif why is it that he did not make 800whp on my car when I had the 700bb's????
I have two questions...
1) Is it too late to make that wager with Scott??
2) Should I ask Sharif why is it that he did not make 800whp on my car when I had the 700bb's????
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03-04-2009, 03:14 PM
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Yet fallenromeo can take the time to post on that "other" site after Scott made a long winded 
post reference what is being posted here on my350z (which I won't give him the satisfaction or opportunity to circumvent the permaban by posting it here).
Here is my response to him that I posted over there:
I'd post against you here as strongly as I ever did before you were banned from my350z. But the 22 year old kid moderator riding your sack here keeps deleting my posts (as I expect this one will be too).
I and others in the VQ community don't need to meet you or be one of your customers to see through the BS hype you post and call you out on it. "RA designed" rods and pistons, huh?
Instead of trying to hype it, why don't you call them what they really are and what every other shop does? They are rods and pistons made to your spec.
Who cares if the post is 3 years old? It was your own words undoctored and uncensored. And most importantly, it was untruthful. Anyone in this community with technical knowledge and half a brain knows that the 700bb turbos are incapable of producing 800whp. Even Jim Wolf won't support that claim.
And since it's obvious you're watching the my350z thread...
Why don't you get one of your devoted fans to post up the info on my350z to prove that you are running a legitimate and LEGAL business with proper permits and licenses, as both Darren and Tim have challenged you to do???
post reference what is being posted here on my350z (which I won't give him the satisfaction or opportunity to circumvent the permaban by posting it here).Here is my response to him that I posted over there:
Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
I'd post against you here as strongly as I ever did before you were banned from my350z. But the 22 year old kid moderator riding your sack here keeps deleting my posts (as I expect this one will be too).
I and others in the VQ community don't need to meet you or be one of your customers to see through the BS hype you post and call you out on it. "RA designed" rods and pistons, huh?
Instead of trying to hype it, why don't you call them what they really are and what every other shop does? They are rods and pistons made to your spec.Who cares if the post is 3 years old? It was your own words undoctored and uncensored. And most importantly, it was untruthful. Anyone in this community with technical knowledge and half a brain knows that the 700bb turbos are incapable of producing 800whp. Even Jim Wolf won't support that claim.
And since it's obvious you're watching the my350z thread...
Why don't you get one of your devoted fans to post up the info on my350z to prove that you are running a legitimate and LEGAL business with proper permits and licenses, as both Darren and Tim have challenged you to do???
Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; 03-04-2009 at 03:19 PM.
03-04-2009, 04:02 PM
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03-04-2009, 04:21 PM
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I've never had any dealings with Scott/RA so here's my question:
If he was doing everything legit(business wise) and not BS'ing his customers, IS HE AN EXPERIENCED installer/builder/tuner. I've often wondered about that....
Basically, does he know his $hit about the Z/G
If he was doing everything legit(business wise) and not BS'ing his customers, IS HE AN EXPERIENCED installer/builder/tuner. I've often wondered about that....
Basically, does he know his $hit about the Z/G
that sound in the background is bothering me