is it possible VR38dett swap on 350z
If anything the LS swap will be the norm in about 5 years just like the 240sx guys. They have an entire website dedicated to V8 240's. The Z will become that type of car as the car gets older and putting FI on the stock block won't be as a cost effective option because your motor is going to go at some point. So why not stick with an N/A application that will put out similar numbers to a stock block FI setup and not worry about grenading your motor.
I said in about 5 years it will be the norm.
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I have a 3.8VQTT AWD Z. I have used the Getrag BNR34 tansmission allong with the Electromagnetic ATTESA E-TS system. We are now in the process of tuning the attesa system and discovering whether we have a beast or a princess. I have trolled the "boreds" for years now and there are two VQawd Z's, the Function Tuned auto (straight transplant from the G35X) and the JUN animal that has VQ JUNTT stroked and Holinger 5speed sequential box and built for competition. (heard somewhere it was actually built for a Chinese dude from HK but you know how rumours start)
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
I have a 3.8VQTT AWD Z. I have used the Getrag BNR34 tansmission allong with the Electromagnetic ATTESA E-TS system. We are now in the process of tuning the attesa system and discovering whether we have a beast or a princess. I have trolled the "boreds" for years now and there are two VQawd Z's, the Function Tuned auto (straight transplant from the G35X) and the JUN animal that has VQ JUNTT stroked and Holinger 5speed sequential box and built for competition. (heard somewhere it was actually built for a Chinese dude from HK but you know how rumours start)
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
I have a 3.8VQTT AWD Z. I have used the Getrag BNR34 tansmission allong with the Electromagnetic ATTESA E-TS system. We are now in the process of tuning the attesa system and discovering whether we have a beast or a princess. I have trolled the "boreds" for years now and there are two VQawd Z's, the Function Tuned auto (straight transplant from the G35X) and the JUN animal that has VQ JUNTT stroked and Holinger 5speed sequential box and built for competition. (heard somewhere it was actually built for a Chinese dude from HK but you know how rumours start)
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
Do you have a link to pics and or videos?!?!?!
Im thinking of swapping in a nuclear reactor into my Z because it would get really good MPG and make like 50,000HP. Anyone know anything about this swap or where I could score some plutonium? Also what wheels would look good with that?
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Despite the disbelief, this project is technically feasible assuming you are willing to put in a lot of work and run a full stand-alone system. I know someone that has one running on the Motronic setup (but not in the Z chassis).
That said, the "cheap" VR38 motors are no longer available - pricing is back in the $9-10k range so at this point it is probably indeed much cheaper to build your VQ or to just purchase a used GTR for $65k if you have 20k to burn.
That said, the "cheap" VR38 motors are no longer available - pricing is back in the $9-10k range so at this point it is probably indeed much cheaper to build your VQ or to just purchase a used GTR for $65k if you have 20k to burn.
If people have put the VQ35 in a GTR (such as Robbie Nishida's drift car), couldn't you theoretically use the same process to reverse swap them? Not saying it would be cheap or feasible, just making conversation.
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-r...r35-drift.html
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-r...r35-drift.html
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If people have put the VQ35 in a GTR (such as Robbie Nishida's drift car), couldn't you theoretically use the same process to reverse swap them? Not saying it would be cheap or feasible, just making conversation.
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-r...r35-drift.html
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-r...r35-drift.html
I have a 3.8VQTT AWD Z. I have used the Getrag BNR34 tansmission allong with the Electromagnetic ATTESA E-TS system. We are now in the process of tuning the attesa system and discovering whether we have a beast or a princess. I have trolled the "boreds" for years now and there are two VQawd Z's, the Function Tuned auto (straight transplant from the G35X) and the JUN animal that has VQ JUNTT stroked and Holinger 5speed sequential box and built for competition. (heard somewhere it was actually built for a Chinese dude from HK but you know how rumours start)
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
Mine uses the Getrag 6 speed Syncro and is designed for road/competition use. Its a 3.8 JUN Stroked with APS TT setup. The adapter plate and gearbox mods including the tfr clutch setup will be commercially available for any dedicated punters wanting to follow the conversion. The balance is actually quite straight forward but needs a good panel repair shop to make it appear factory. (four brackets for the front crossmember and floorpan adjustments to allow for the transfer case) Tein Coilovers have the correct front product and the rear genuine coilover product if you want to eliminate the rear std coil setup.
The development has taken ages but I have a another business and its all been performed at hobby pace. The quality is faultless however so thats rewarding. The result? I will report in with the truth about the conversion. Does it feel too nose heavy, not point very well, understeer to buggery, oversteer with minimal assistance, generally be a pig to own or is it worthwhile. I have been assured by a few workshops from the US that its old hat, done many times, a useless mod, why the hell do want to do that..........all those responses, but never an owner able to respond to me including Function tuned except for JUN who refuse to comment on what the final product becomes. I'm guessing they aren't stunning, otherwise we would see more of them competing in time attack etc. The only positive response has been from the NISMO rep who invited me/it to Japan when finished. He said he was impressed but I'm a sceptical old fart and we'll just see what happens. That was before the release of the GTR and 370 so the whole world has moved on.
that sounds impressive, in for vids, pics, etc. however in response to the original question, the vr38 is a different beast. its closed block, and seems to handle anything thats thrown at it, and imho is far superior than any vq. im sure with r&d and a high budget there can be the possibility of getting the vr38 into a z.
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that sounds impressive, in for vids, pics, etc. however in response to the original question, the vr38 is a different beast. its closed block, and seems to handle anything thats thrown at it, and imho is far superior than any vq. im sure with r&d and a high budget there can be the possibility of getting the vr38 into a z.
that sounds impressive, in for vids, pics, etc. however in response to the original question, the vr38 is a different beast. its closed block, and seems to handle anything thats thrown at it, and imho is far superior than any vq. im sure with r&d and a high budget there can be the possibility of getting the vr38 into a z.
Let's see some proof dude
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Reliable upper limits of the VR38 block is about 700whp on a real dyno although many tuners are pushing beyond this and some are paying the price. Keeping in mind the GTR has an astonishingly low drive train loss this a hair less than 800HP crank HP. There are basic build VRs surpassing 1000whp, and some spectacular failures that no one talks about haha.