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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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who besides AMS?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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where's the civette guy when you need him?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
who besides AMS?
Who besides AMS that has hit 1000whp? There have been 3 companies that I know of that have hit the magic 4 digit mark. I read this over on the GT-R forums.

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where's the civette guy when you need him?
Yeah I think the civette guy could put the VR38 in a 350z...lol. That was a masterpiece he built.

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Stock block safly are putting between 550 to 620 awhp with bolt ons

As for 1000 plus builds there are few already
Ams alpha 9
Switzer
Boost logic with 1111awhp
Sp enginering with greddy kit
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
Stock block safly are putting between 550 to 620 awhp with bolt ons

As for 1000 plus builds there are few already
Ams alpha 9
Switzer
Boost logic with 1111awhp
Sp enginering with greddy kit
That's not quite accurate, but yeah there have been a handful. Not everyone goes and posts on nagtroc as soon as they hit 1000whp either. There's a few guys all over the world that were closing in on the 4 digit mark last I talked to them... But I don't think 1000hp out of an aluminum v6 is reliable...
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Here are a few, typically mid 500's with stock turbos, mid 700's with upgraded turbos and more with built engine, with various levels depending on supporting mods.

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Old May 21, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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IMO i am all for putting any motor into any car. that is how you get noticed by people and break open the future for car swaps and builds. Is there a more cost effective swap that can produce/handle the HP? sure but arent there more cost effective cars to buy that put out more power than the z series in the fiirst place? not being a douche just saying.


as far as im concerned the biggest deterent for me with the GT-R is the lack of clutch shifting. even with the HP loss or the very real possibilities of burning your clutch out, id still rather get a 6 speed GT-R and under perform , over a auto/tiptron GT-R.

I have a CRAZY stupid dream of building a 6speed VR38DETT Grand national. as in the buick GN body/chassis and GT-R/6Speed manual drive train. may sound stupid in theory but IF I ever did it, it would be bitchin.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aslsmm
as far as im concerned the biggest deterent for me with the GT-R is the lack of clutch shifting. even with the HP loss or the very real possibilities of burning your clutch out, id still rather get a 6 speed GT-R and under perform , over a auto/tiptron GT-R.
There is more than one shop that offer a manual trans swap for GTRs. The downsides are that its not cheap, and the the car is a bit slower in a straight line. But I'm with you, I will always prefer a "3-pedal" car.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisjersey06
There is more than one shop that offer a manual trans swap for GTRs. The downsides are that its not cheap, and the the car is a bit slower in a straight line. But I'm with you, I will always prefer a "3-pedal" car.

Good to know. Now of they can trim down the look pf the rear end then ill put down a deposite today.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Awesome idea, but most likely wont work for a couple years until the prices go down..

Solution: Sell your Z :[ and buy a supra! Easily push over 600whp with a couple grand in that thing and it is a pretty damn reliable engine all the internals are bullet proof
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Old May 28, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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The 2j most certainly is not bullet proof. Plus, who wants to pay the "Supra tax"
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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Out of curiosity how much power does the VR38 make without the turbos, or is it not known?
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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I'll take a wild guess?

Without turbos would be a regular 3.8!

A regular 3.8 would produce around 300-330 whp!

Just a wild guess, worth it?

Hell no!
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
who besides AMS?
Switzer. Seriously how is AMS the big name?
With the R1k AND the R1k-x with 1250whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSmS...el_video_title

I guess I still just greatly dislike AMS because Buschur Racing owns AMS.
nobody here will know anything what im talking about (im guessing), but whatevs.
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The 2j most certainly is not bullet proof. Plus, who wants to pay the "Supra tax"
No other import I'd trust more with stock internals on high hp.
It's not bullet proof but it can take 700hp no worries on a stock motor.
The 2j was designed by a german engineer and really deserves it's reputation. Go to a supra meet and get to know the cars/owners, then get a ride in one and see what the fuss is about.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
Switzer. Seriously how is AMS the big name?
With the R1k AND the R1k-x with 1250whp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSmS...el_video_title

I guess I still just greatly dislike AMS because Buschur Racing owns AMS.
nobody here will know anything what im talking about (im guessing), but whatevs.


because AMS are the real deal with fastest ever GTR and 1310awhp 35psi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgJp-hLOrNo
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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as many of you know we have been working the vr38 motor program with the recent issues of the nissan block cracking under extreme hp / cylinder pressures
. Our engineers and technicians have been hard at work and developed a new way to reinforce the block. We wanted to test this new theory and really put the car through its paces. The only way we know how to do that is to abuse it on the dyno and the track!
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
because AMS are the real deal with fastest ever GTR and 1310awhp 35psi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgJp-hLOrNo
The switzers were running that power level sooner, and 50whp more than a switzer car isn't a big deal imo, that could easily be down to the dyno settings and another half of a tenth on the 1/4 could easily be down to the track.
Next ams has about 10x the online publicity as Switzer, that doesn't make them better
Next AMS quotes 1000 wheel torque, although in their videos they are posting you see 926, 960 etc. The r1k-x has dynos to show its 1000wtq.
Next up, in the Evo world, AMS tuned customer cars have been out performed (on the dyno) by cheaper smaller displacement cars tuned by buschur racing. I generally got the impression that they usually under-tune their customer cars (one guy had a 2.4ltr gt35r evo 8 made 420whp from ams, and the buschur guy had a 2.0ltr gt35r made about 600whp, both on straight pump and both on the same dyno by a 3rd party dyno/shop).
Neither company will sell you a car that has their max hp ratings, both offer around 1100hp cars. And if you really want to go tit for tat, the switzer cars always come out a bit sooner than AMS, and another tit for tat fact is that the switzer car is a few thousand cheaper (not like anyone who has the money will care).
Also I'm unsure but I believe the r1k-x is just an r1k with more boost and timing.
I just greatly dislike AMS.

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Originally Posted by Resmarted
The switzers were running that power level sooner, and 50whp more than a switzer car isn't a big deal imo, that could easily be down to the dyno settings and another half of a tenth on the 1/4 could easily be down to the track.
Next ams has about 10x the online publicity as Switzer, that doesn't make them better
Next AMS quotes 1000 wheel torque, although in their videos they are posting you see 926, 960 etc. The r1k-x has dynos to show its 1000wtq.
Next up, in the Evo world, AMS tuned customer cars have been out performed (on the dyno) by cheaper smaller displacement cars tuned by buschur racing. I generally got the impression that they usually under-tune their customer cars (one guy had a 2.4ltr gt35r evo 8 made 420whp from ams, and the buschur guy had a 2.0ltr gt35r made about 600whp, both on straight pump and both on the same dyno by a 3rd party dyno/shop).
Neither company will sell you a car that has their max hp ratings, both offer around 1100hp cars. And if you really want to go tit for tat, the switzer cars always come out a bit sooner than AMS, and another tit for tat fact is that the switzer car is a few thousand cheaper (not like anyone who has the money will care).
Also I'm unsure but I believe the r1k-x is just an r1k with more boost and timing.
I just greatly dislike AMS.
Resmarted I think you should look at the video again. They only state 13xx whp and 1000 ft/lbs torque. They don't say 1000 wtq. Minor detail you could have missed.
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Originally Posted by KingBaby
I'll take a wild guess?

Without turbos would be a regular 3.8!

A regular 3.8 would produce around 300-330 whp!

Just a wild guess, worth it?

Hell no!
Well I don't think Nissan makes a VR38DE, but I guess I see why they don't because that not much better than the VQ37(and maybe even the VQ35HR) at least power wise.
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