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Old 10-07-2009, 08:42 PM
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I'm looking to buy a Z. I would like to put in a APS Twin Turbo kit in it, but the thing is that I heard on a 'Stock' 350z engine it can only handle the 'Turbo kit' on 8 PSI but I am looking to run at least 12 - 14 PSI on it. Also I don't want my engine to blow.

Basically what I want to know is:
- If I run it with 12 - 14 PSI will it blow? And if so what would be the best solution to stop this?
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a good tune and 10psi max on a stock block imo...
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Thanks bro
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build your motor, dont push more than 8 or you'll see problems eventually.
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Spend some time and search this topic. IMO...... 8-10psi. Any more on the stock block and you'll be looking at a rebuild in your near future. Not to say others have boosted more with little issues, but its just a general rule of thumb. If you wanna run 12-14psi......you gotta pay to play, simple as that. Good Luck
Old 10-07-2009, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeUM
Basically what I want to know is:
- If I run it with 12 - 14 PSI will it blow?
Yes

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And if so what would be the best solution to stop this?
Get a built short block - Balanced - and any compbination of Wiseco, Arias or CP pistons and Eagle, Carillo, Pauter or GTM rods.

Last, but not least, spend time SEARCHING and LEARNING. The Search feature in this forum is very useful. Search the Forced Induction section of the forum. Find threads on other builds and learn from their experiences. The answers to most, if not all, of your questions are already contained in the myriad of threads herein.
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Build and boost if you want to run at that psi level. Have 20-30k handy, and an extra 10-15k just in case something blows up. Don't forget to get an oil cooler, it saves lives!
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Good news, bad news here. If you get the journal bearing APS TT Tuner kit, you probably can't make enough hp to blow the stock block anyway. 8-9psi is the max I would run on a DE block, and even that doesn't gaurantee longevity. To run the psi you stated you will need to build the block and have many supporting mods as abui01 said, the cost goes up dramatically at that point.

Stock block power is plenty fast, ~400whp, you may feel that is enough if your budget is limited.
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some stock blocks have been beaten 10-12psi... some have blown up at 6-8 psi.... make sure you have enough money saved up just incase something goes down..

stock block is plenty fast but will get boring! lol.... kinda like my situation hah, fml!
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I am ready to go FI on my 2003 350Z

Who do you guys recommend I go to for install and tune on Long Island N.Y.

By the way 400 WHP is fine for me

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Originally Posted by 90zebra
I am ready to go FI on my 2003 350Z

Who do you guys recommend I go to for install and tune on Long Island N.Y.

By the way 400 WHP is fine for me
VTR (Vinnie Ten Racing) is in that area I belive, then its southern MD or northern VA for the next closest VQ specialty shop.

With VTR the issue is usally what EMS you want to run. Have any plan on that?
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Originally Posted by SmokeUM
I'm looking to buy a Z. I would like to put in a APS Twin Turbo kit in it, but the thing is that I heard on a 'Stock' 350z engine it can only handle the 'Turbo kit' on 8 PSI but I am looking to run at least 12 - 14 PSI on it. Also I don't want my engine to blow.

Basically what I want to know is:
- If I run it with 12 - 14 PSI will it blow? And if so what would be the best solution to stop this?
first off, how do you know 8 psi isn't enough for you? That said, how do you know 12-14 will be enough?

I run 15-16 psi on my APS TT'd car and if I had it to do all over again, I would run the measily 8 psi on a stock motor and call it a day.

If you want a shop in the chicago area, call Irshad @ GRD. They are the shop to go to for APS parts and installs
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Originally Posted by Vas@Extended
some stock blocks have been beaten 10-12psi... some have blown up at 6-8 psi.... make sure you have enough money saved up just incase something goes down..

stock block is plenty fast but will get boring! lol.... kinda like my situation hah, fml!
I don't find my 15+ psi as exciting as I did a yr or two ago. Doesn't matter the power level; at some point it will become .... I hate to say... boring
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Originally Posted by Cass007
VTR (Vinnie Ten Racing) is in that area I belive, then its southern MD or northern VA for the next closest VQ specialty shop.

With VTR the issue is usally what EMS you want to run. Have any plan on that?
Thanks for the info...I was thinking Utec for the EMS
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Originally Posted by 90zebra
Thanks for the info...I was thinking Utec for the EMS
I belive he is Utec friendly. Sounds like this may be your WIN. Good luck.

I don't find my 15+ psi as exciting as I did a yr or two ago. Doesn't matter the power level; at some point it will become .... I hate to say... boring
WOW, how to you cure that? Sounds like its time to take some flying lessons or start jumping out of planes for a rush.
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Originally Posted by Cass007
I belive he is Utec friendly. Sounds like this may be your WIN. Good luck.



WOW, how to you cure that? Sounds like its time to take some flying lessons or start jumping out of planes for a rush.
Thanks Cass
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Originally Posted by Cass007


WOW, how to you cure that? Sounds like its time to take some flying lessons or start jumping out of planes for a rush.
boring is the wrong word... regardless of power level, at some point, driving the car will become routine. Nothing will be like the first time you get behind the wheel and hammer the gas with boost. Doesn't matter 8 psi or 15 psi
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Originally Posted by Zivman
first off, how do you know 8 psi isn't enough for you? That said, how do you know 12-14 will be enough?

I run 15-16 psi on my APS TT'd car and if I had it to do all over again, I would run the measily 8 psi on a stock motor and call it a day.

If you want a shop in the chicago area, call Irshad @ GRD. They are the shop to go to for APS parts and installs
^^ +1.... it sounds like your basing your decision off of something you heard while talking in a group of people or something.... b/c I ran 13psi on my stock engine but made the same power as my friend running ... 9psi on his greddy kit??? Different turbo's will flow different CFM at any given boost pressure....

set a power goal and then go from there.....

The basics are the same for any internal combustion engine..... when you learn that come back and search this forum and start threads....
Happy modding!!!!

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Originally Posted by Cass007
Good news, bad news here. If you get the journal bearing APS TT Tuner kit, you probably can't make enough hp to blow the stock block anyway. 8-9psi is the max I would run on a DE block, and even that doesn't gaurantee longevity. To run the psi you stated you will need to build the block and have many supporting mods as abui01 said, the cost goes up dramatically at that point.

Stock block power is plenty fast, ~400whp, you may feel that is enough if your budget is limited.
I thought the tuner kit came with the same turbos as the full kit, just no management or fuel?!?!?
The APS turbos are ball bearing aren't they? I was also under the impression they were good for around 500 ponies.


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