View Poll Results: Whats a better platform to build 350z tt or supra single turbo
build the 350z twin turbo
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build the toyota supra single turbo
58
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dont build either! save you're money
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350z built twin turbo or toyota supra built single turbo
10-25-2010, 07:37 AM
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Corvette's are no joke - that's for sure. The cam'd C6 at the airstrip reported 400 wtq across the board and we were neck and neck, despite my torque peaking closer to 500 and dipping down to just above 375 at 7k rpms. He edged me out a couple times, so his gearing must be amazing if the power levels are accurate.
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The youtube comments are funny - so much misinformation. Mike's car and mine often get confused.
Here's the dyno the day before I went to the airstrip - this is what I was running (honest - don't believe the comments about beating a 680 whp Z - randy and dil turned down the boost for me - plain and simple):
Amazing how many vids I haven't seen - found this run where he got me...
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I will say that there is a nasty dip early on in the right lane so there is a brief moment of traction loss - not making excuses but the C6 owner politely asked to run in the left lane after he lost to me that first time
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The youtube comments are funny - so much misinformation. Mike's car and mine often get confused.
Here's the dyno the day before I went to the airstrip - this is what I was running (honest - don't believe the comments about beating a 680 whp Z - randy and dil turned down the boost for me - plain and simple):
Amazing how many vids I haven't seen - found this run where he got me...
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I will say that there is a nasty dip early on in the right lane so there is a brief moment of traction loss - not making excuses but the C6 owner politely asked to run in the left lane after he lost to me that first time
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10-25-2010, 12:46 PM
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+1 its so hard to look hp v. hp and trq for trq, powerband, gearing, driver, and so many other circumstances play into it. Not to mention the owner could have some heavy *** 20" rim on his car.
I really miss all the street racing fun we used have on these forums. Too many old guys waving a finger...
I really think if you have a good head and can actually drive your vehicle the chances of an incident a minimal. Our drag strips are like 45 min to an hour away and you may get 4 runs in on a good night. I do more racing to and from the track usually than there. But times are changing.
I really think if you have a good head and can actually drive your vehicle the chances of an incident a minimal. Our drag strips are like 45 min to an hour away and you may get 4 runs in on a good night. I do more racing to and from the track usually than there. But times are changing.
10-25-2010, 05:23 PM
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i would have to go ahead and say the supra i wouldnt even think twice...no offense but the supra has rear seats the 2jz can handle boost galore its veryyyyy rare to see and personally i would compare it to the r32-r34's
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10-25-2010, 05:36 PM
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Speaking of LS3 vettes, I ran one last night that was boltons and he smoked my *** twice. On the second run I turned up the boost to 10lbs and was holding a solid 4 cars behind him. He just got such a jump on me from a 40 roll that I could not catch back up. I was not brake boosting.
That will be my next car for sure. The lS3 Vettes are very very fast in stock form.
That will be my next car for sure. The lS3 Vettes are very very fast in stock form.
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I always watch this before I wanna get all fired up and go drive my car. The car is just so badass.
ECS LS3 CORVETTE - CAM ONLY 10.845 @128.58
I cant get it to embedd properly from streetfire.
ECS LS3 CORVETTE - CAM ONLY 10.845 @128.58I cant get it to embedd properly from streetfire.
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10-25-2010, 06:19 PM
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ok then i guess the 2jz is a motor that doesnt matter. All the 2jz swaps dont matter. people who want a 2jz dont matter. dont you think it would be cheaper for supra parts since its been out longer and obviously the 2jz is an engine of god especially since alot of BMW m5s are swapping for it. Than opposed to TT'ing an engine like ours IE VQ35DE/HR.... Im just sayin man .
10-26-2010, 08:13 AM
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saying an inline 6 is better than a V6 is what I was referring to. you can build a 4 banger honda B16 or K20 motor to outperform a tuned Lambo V12. As they say, all it takes is money.
I know that 2JZ parts are NOT cheaper thah VQ parts. Power costs money, doesnt matter how old the technology is. And anything "JDM" is expensive. Now building a 2JZ vs building a E39 is a whole nother story. If I owned a heavy E39 M5 turd, I'd swap for something cheaper that could make more HP as well.
That's not the case though. A built 2JZ costs just as much as built VQ. I made 900whp with anothe 10psi to go on a standard non-sleeved 3.5L. Thats right up there with the top 10% of the 2JZ guys without having do a swap.
So no, I dont think swapping to a motor with less displacement, poorer flowing heads just for a closed deck iron block is a sound decision.
Back to the OP's question, i think the Supra platform as a whole is better for racing than the 350z. But the motor is only a small part of that.
I know that 2JZ parts are NOT cheaper thah VQ parts. Power costs money, doesnt matter how old the technology is. And anything "JDM" is expensive. Now building a 2JZ vs building a E39 is a whole nother story. If I owned a heavy E39 M5 turd, I'd swap for something cheaper that could make more HP as well.
That's not the case though. A built 2JZ costs just as much as built VQ. I made 900whp with anothe 10psi to go on a standard non-sleeved 3.5L. Thats right up there with the top 10% of the 2JZ guys without having do a swap.
So no, I dont think swapping to a motor with less displacement, poorer flowing heads just for a closed deck iron block is a sound decision.
Back to the OP's question, i think the Supra platform as a whole is better for racing than the 350z. But the motor is only a small part of that.
ok then i guess the 2jz is a motor that doesnt matter. All the 2jz swaps dont matter. people who want a 2jz dont matter. dont you think it would be cheaper for supra parts since its been out longer and obviously the 2jz is an engine of god especially since alot of BMW m5s are swapping for it. Than opposed to TT'ing an engine like ours IE VQ35DE/HR.... Im just sayin man .
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10-26-2010, 10:05 AM
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ok i understand ya bro. Supra is just my first love, shes like the girl that got away. lol 
saying an inline 6 is better than a V6 is what I was referring to. you can build a 4 banger honda B16 or K20 motor to outperform a tuned Lambo V12. As they say, all it takes is money.
I know that 2JZ parts are NOT cheaper thah VQ parts. Power costs money, doesnt matter how old the technology is. And anything "JDM" is expensive. Now building a 2JZ vs building a E39 is a whole nother story. If I owned a heavy E39 M5 turd, I'd swap for something cheaper that could make more HP as well.
That's not the case though. A built 2JZ costs just as much as built VQ. I made 900whp with anothe 10psi to go on a standard non-sleeved 3.5L. Thats right up there with the top 10% of the 2JZ guys without having do a swap.
So no, I dont think swapping to a motor with less displacement, poorer flowing heads just for a closed deck iron block is a sound decision.
Back to the OP's question, i think the Supra platform as a whole is better for racing than the 350z. But the motor is only a small part of that.
I know that 2JZ parts are NOT cheaper thah VQ parts. Power costs money, doesnt matter how old the technology is. And anything "JDM" is expensive. Now building a 2JZ vs building a E39 is a whole nother story. If I owned a heavy E39 M5 turd, I'd swap for something cheaper that could make more HP as well.
That's not the case though. A built 2JZ costs just as much as built VQ. I made 900whp with anothe 10psi to go on a standard non-sleeved 3.5L. Thats right up there with the top 10% of the 2JZ guys without having do a swap.
So no, I dont think swapping to a motor with less displacement, poorer flowing heads just for a closed deck iron block is a sound decision.
Back to the OP's question, i think the Supra platform as a whole is better for racing than the 350z. But the motor is only a small part of that.
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