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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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okay! i wired up everything, and ready to be connected to the harness on the haltech..

1 problem tho......... i don't know to which one i should connect? and how to connect it?


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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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i just tried on all 3 positions, nothing has changed on the haltech...
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hmmmmmm.... now that i just noticed, the 3 positions says OUTPUT!!!!!! they should be input!

now i'm lost.!
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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dude, you're looking at outputs.

look in the haltech manual for the section on widebands. You're using the wrong plug completely.

http://www.injectedperformance.com/haltech/
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by maXmood
hmmmmmm.... now that i just noticed, the 3 positions says OUTPUT!!!!!! they should be input!

now i'm lost.!
I just re-read the wideband instructions from Injected Performance. Apparently there are two versions of the harness available. One version has an input connector built-in to the harness, the other does not. Sounds like you don't have the version with the built in connector.

For those users without the built-in harness, they must wire the wideband into the main harness(Haltech). I would try contacting Injected to see if they could send you over a copy of the said instructions.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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no, he has the proper harness. If he has that 3 plug prong then that's the new harness. He was just using the 3 prong plug and not the 4 prong plug. Simple mistake.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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no, he has the proper harness. If he has that 3 plug prong then that's the new harness. He was just using the 3 prong plug and not the 4 prong plug. Simple mistake.
Got'cha. Thanks for that link, BTW. I wasn't aware Injected had a Haltech support page.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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I just re-read the wideband instructions from Injected Performance. Apparently there are two versions of the harness available. One version has an input connector built-in to the harness, the other does not. Sounds like you don't have the version with the built in connector.

For those users without the built-in harness, they must wire the wideband into the main harness(Haltech). I would try contacting Injected to see if they could send you over a copy of the said instructions.
Thanks for noting that out.! that wasn't mentioned anywhere on Haltech's website.

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no, he has the proper harness. If he has that 3 plug prong then that's the new harness. He was just using the 3 prong plug and not the 4 prong plug. Simple mistake.
Thanks for the link!

i wouldn't have known what exactly i have, because Haltech's manual isn't updated.. i got the silver one, while their manual is describing the red one.

i'm a learning enthusiast after all..

thanks for the input guys.. i'll keep you posted on how it goes.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 04:06 AM
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Yep... binder is correct.!

i got the correct harness, it's just i plugged into the wrong AMP..

i've followed the instructions on the link you posted, and was able to get the readings from both sensors.

i think Haltech should consider updating their stuff.

now it's time to get a better AFR targets.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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i have a question tho regarding the readings of DynoJet..

i'll make a new thread about it.

here it is: https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...n-reading.html

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glad you got it working. do some logs and see what you get and post up for us
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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glad you got it working. do some logs and see what you get and post up for us
will do some tonight..

thanks for being around.
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logged 4 runs (attached)..

let me know what you think!

thanks!
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HaltechRuns.zip (81.8 KB, 20 views)
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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from all 4 runs:

Highest AIT: 75c (167F)
Highest coolant temp: 96c (205F)
Highest boost: 9.4psi
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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How can I read those logs? They don't make sense in excel.
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^hmmmm... they're ready for Haltech log viewer.

you can download it and then load them up.

try this from IP: http://www.injectedperformance.com/h...20(beta30).msi

if not, then this link for ECU Manager which includes the viewer: http://files.haltech.com/downloads/p..._4_release.zip

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looks good. under 3600rpm you go really rich when you go WOT. sensor bottoms at 10.2 so you might even be richer than that. After 3600 your a/f is rock solid. timing looks great.

IDK what's going on with that first log but maybe you were spinning the wheels? the rpms were jumping all over the place. knock that crap off for logggin it confuses the readers.

It also looks like the boost levels off a little in that first run near the top and gets kinda jumpy which means you are getting a leak somewhere or the belt was starting to slip. It should be a steady line all the way to redline. Since you said you know you have a leak i would think that might be the leak showing up there. I really didn't see it on other logs though but they were lower boost than the first one.
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good to hear a second opinion on the tune.. thanks.

yea, 1st run was wacky with all the stuff. i didn't wanna save it first, but then i thought something might interest someone, NOT!

exactly what i've noticed, @ WOT at low rpm, it goes pretty rich, i'll get the tuner to fix this (i'll see if i can do it before handing it over).

i still didn't tighten the plenum (where the leak is), cuz i'm waiting for my torque wrenches to arrive.

one problem tho, whenever i go WOT shifting through gears, it throws a code (P0175, System is rich, Bank 2) i'm not sure why this keeps coming up, but i need to find a solution to it.

now, you think adjusting the timing would give me better gains and would still be safe?
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until you can look at the tq curve on a dyno or listen for knock with a device i wouldn't touch the timing. Setting up knock thresholds on the haltech take forever. I've been working on mine all summer so don't expect to use that.

as for the wot fix just do a trace view in the datamanager and look at whre it's rich and pull some fuel. If you want it to be like 11.5 you just take 10.2/11.5 and that's the amount of difference you need to change it. That gets you .88 which is 88% so to make it 11.5 you need to raise it about 12% (increase the number in the cell 12). I'm not sure if i would go that much to start. I'd say start with like a 10% increase and then do a pull. Keeping it rich and slowing pulling fuel is always safest.

Don't touch antyhing at 3500 and above because it was good a/f.

also, when you do the plenum, take it all off and start from scratch and torque the bolts in proper sequence. Just tightening the loose ones will throw the balance off.
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until you can look at the tq curve on a dyno or listen for knock with a device i wouldn't touch the timing. Setting up knock thresholds on the haltech take forever. I've been working on mine all summer so don't expect to use that.

as for the wot fix just do a trace view in the datamanager and look at whre it's rich and pull some fuel. If you want it to be like 11.5 you just take 10.2/11.5 and that's the amount of difference you need to change it. That gets you .88 which is 88% so to make it 11.5 you need to raise it about 12% (increase the number in the cell 12). I'm not sure if i would go that much to start. I'd say start with like a 10% increase and then do a pull. Keeping it rich and slowing pulling fuel is always safest.

Don't touch antyhing at 3500 and above because it was good a/f.

also, when you do the plenum, take it all off and start from scratch and torque the bolts in proper sequence. Just tightening the loose ones will throw the balance off.
i'm gonna try to get fine-tuning over the dyno to adjust the timing a little bit.

i'll keep you posted..
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