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Old 11-03-2010, 02:44 PM
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they are just fine for that kinda build.

Originally Posted by Erdem
I think I will do the Eagles for my 500+ hp Vortech??
any thoughts???
Str8dum1??
And yes, Hal runs low 9s, Thom and Alberto can beat liter bikes. I wasnt talkin about me. Those guys run over 700whp. You should pm those guys to see how they can control the car with that power level. Just because you cant, doesnt mean that other people havent taken the time to dial it in.

About the city kid, you obviously missed the thread about the NYC guy with the 350whp Procharger that made his buddy **** himself...
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Originally Posted by nightcrawler_8
i totally agree, but would you use the car only for that !!!?? where we live, every 1.5 KM there is a camera ( police camera ) to tell you amazing speed you doing there,keep it up ..
No....I drive it to the office sometimes....

I have been to your side of the world where cars cruise at 200mph..Dubai. I though in the Middle East green (money) means go.
Old 11-03-2010, 06:13 PM
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Eagle rods here also: https://my350z.com/forum/cars-for-sa...ml#post8653219

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Old 11-03-2010, 08:52 PM
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Have you looked the Brian Crower bROD Connecting Rods?


I'm using them.
Old 11-03-2010, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
In my opinion, Eagle significantly overrates their rods, and Manley underrates there rods. If you put the two rods in your hands, the difference is very clear in terms of final fit, finish, and prep. And when you mic up the working surfaces you see much better consistency and zero defects of any kind. And it's also comforting to know that Manly rods are finished in the USA, rather than overseas where quality control can be more difficult to manage and check. And just to be clear, Eagle rods are excellent as well, and I don't think anyone is going to have an issue with either rod in the 500-600whp range.
Sharif, it would be nice if you could a snap a pic of both rods side by side to show the difference, finish etc. of each rod.

Originally Posted by str8dum1
The OP wants 700+whp. If you polled the reputable builders (IP, GTM, FP, etc) I bet not one would say go with eagles. Its just not worth the risk.

I thought Hal @ IP was pushing 750+whp on his personal Z using Eagle rods?


Originally Posted by XKR
I am back.......

Sorry to hear Rich.....

With Riches motor....I made 700whp on FP dyno with the 850BB......then 800whp on DJ.

My stroker build with Eagle Rods made 815whp on DD and 1006whp on DJ.

Rich made close to 900whp on FP dyno using the same Rods....As Raj has stated, thats close to 1200 hp.....300 short of their claim....With those numbers I would not call this a weak Rod.
XKR, you're one of those who come to mind when using Eagle rods and pushing high numbers. Are you still using Eagle rods on your stroked engine?
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Originally Posted by midz350
Have you looked the Brian Crower bROD Connecting Rods?


I'm using them.
There are 2 types of BC rods, which one are you using? and what are they rated at? price?

They're not widely used in our VQ engines but knowing BC doesnt make crap I'll consider them too.
Old 11-03-2010, 10:39 PM
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so now that weve bashed on egales and have come down to agreements lol any1 use manleys??? any issues???
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Originally Posted by Dubai
There are 2 types of BC rods, which one are you using? and what are they rated at? price?

They're not widely used in our VQ engines but knowing BC doesnt make crap I'll consider them too.
I'm using Brian Crower bROD (Sportsman) Connecting Rods.

VQ35DE / VQ35HR Sportsman Connecting Rods
Although the name implies that the Sportsman is a 2nd tier part, the Sportsman incorporates every feature of the premier BC625+ rod, only that the fasteners have been changed to the more economical, yet venerable ARP2000 bolt, rated to 220,000 p.s.i. The Sportsman is rated in excess of 200HP per cylinder and priced for the everyday performance buff.
I got them for $525.


Even the Brian Crower Pro Connecting Rods are priced at ~$900 and rated in excess of 300HP per cylinder.

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Old 11-03-2010, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by midz350
I'm using Brian Crower bROD (Sportsman) Connecting Rods.

I got them for $525.
The price is very close to the Eagle and Manley rods. HP rating is interesting too!!

If you dont mind me asking, how much whp are you pushing ?

Anyone else using BC bROD conn rods ?
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Originally Posted by Z_boy912
The price is very close to the Eagle and Manley rods. HP rating is interesting too!!

If you dont mind me asking, how much whp are you pushing ?

Anyone else using BC bROD conn rods ?
The car is not dyno tuned yet. I'm running on a map that (smalltuner) sent me and I tweaked lil bit. still searching for a tuner
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Originally Posted by Dubai

XKR, you're one of those who come to mind when using Eagle rods and pushing high numbers. Are you still using Eagle rods on your stroked engine?
Yes.... I am still using Eagle.

Remember... Rich was pushing more power than me....he may have found the limit or something.

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Originally Posted by ggutierrez
so now that weve bashed on egales and have come down to agreements lol any1 use manleys??? any issues???
Whose bashing eagles? They are in some of the well known high HP builds....
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So GTM's "in-house designed" rods are just rebadged eagles with a 25% markup?

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...cat=383&page=1

Originally Posted by XKR
Yes.... I am still using Eagle.

Remember... Rich was pushing more power than me....he may have found the limit or something.
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Couldn't be eagles on XKR's 4.2L stroker? I don't know who manuf the GTM rods but the weights don't match Eagle rods. What u smokin' Mike?
Old 11-04-2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
So GTM's "in-house designed" rods are just rebadged eagles with a 25% markup?

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...cat=383&page=1

My bad....I stand corrected...It's GTM Rod......I just got back from Doug's part of the world where someone may have used Ganja for seasoning

I am being told by the experts that over 700whp DD is pushing the Eagles So I hate to say it....Rich is correct

I am also being told that Hal ( correct me if I am wrong) broke the Eagle rod at 1000 whp.
So with this in mind...what's the limit for the Eagle? 700?... 750 or 800?
If I had known this....I would not have pushed my car to 800whp. From the info from Eagle's advertisement .....it clearly states that I was within a safe margin....


Originally Posted by rcdash
Couldn't be eagles on XKR's 4.2L stroker? I don't know who manuf the GTM rods but the weights don't match Eagle rods. What u smokin' Mike?
BTW Raj....it's 4.0.....not 4.2



Originally Posted by Dubai

XKR, you're one of those who come to mind when using Eagle rods and pushing high numbers. Are you still using Eagle rods on your stroked engine?

Just in case you missed my correction......

My rods are NOT Eagle.......they are GTM Rods.

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Originally Posted by XKR
Yes.... I am still using Eagle.

Remember... Rich was pushing more power than me....he may have found the limit or something.
Mike

You don't have eagle rods in your 4.0 stroker engine, We do offer two type of rods one is an H beam witch is rated to 200hp per rod and an I beam rod that is rated to 350hp per rod . You do have the I beam rods in you engine, putting eagle rods in a high horse power build is straight dumb and stupid in my opinion.

Here is some pics of the Two

Sam

I BEAM


H BEAM

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Originally Posted by str8dum1
So GTM's "in-house designed" rods are just rebadged eagles with a 25% markup?

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...cat=383&page=1
Not true at all, J st another assumption on your part.

Sam

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Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
Not true at all, J st another assumption on your part.

Sam
Yeah.... I posted above that I stand corrected.....

Rich meant no harm Sam...His post was a smartazz response direct at me telling me I was wrong.....so he was defending your product at my expense......Hmmmm......now that I think of it....Rich..
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Originally Posted by Sam@GTM
You do have the I beam rods in you engine, putting eagle rods in a high horse power build is straight dumb and stupid in my opinion.
Ya, there was no way you'd have eagles in your car making that kinda power and trq. It would just be really weird of GTM to make such a badass motor and skimp on that.

And Mike, its too easy to bust your *****.

No disrespect Sam, as that was pointed towards Mike as he mentioned, although I am interested to know what else I made assumptions about?

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We run the Brian Crower Billet Rods with custom age bolts from arp on our big VQ builds. Love em
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