Eagle H-beam vs Manley H-beam?
11-02-2010, 06:59 AM
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Eagle H-beam vs Manley H-beam?
I know Eagle rods have been used in many builds in our community along with many domestics pushing close to 1000hp with success but just saw a pic posted by str8dum1 of a broken VQ block pushing close to 700hp as a result of eagle rods, correct me if I'm wrong?
Also I was wondering why Forged Performance made the switch to Manley H-beam rods in their S1 blocks?
Eagle rods are rated @ 1500 hp (not sure if thats over rated?)
Manley rods are rated @ 600-800 hp depending on rod bolts.
Which one would you trust if you were building a 700+whp VQ engine?
Also I was wondering why Forged Performance made the switch to Manley H-beam rods in their S1 blocks?
Eagle rods are rated @ 1500 hp (not sure if thats over rated?)
Manley rods are rated @ 600-800 hp depending on rod bolts.
Which one would you trust if you were building a 700+whp VQ engine?
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11-02-2010, 08:24 AM
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I’ve also been considering the Eagle and Manley rods for my motor build as I’m only shooting for 500-550whp (on E85), but that 1500 hp rating that Eagle’s throwing around does seem awfully high…
Although, if I was building a 700+ whp engine I’d look into Pauter or Carrillo
For my build though, it’ll probably come down to Eagle, Manley, or K1 perhaps…
Although, if I was building a 700+ whp engine I’d look into Pauter or Carrillo
For my build though, it’ll probably come down to Eagle, Manley, or K1 perhaps…
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11-02-2010, 10:51 AM
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I know Eagle rods have been used in many builds in our community along with many domestics pushing close to 1000hp with success but just saw a pic posted by str8dum1 of a broken VQ block pushing close to 700hp as a result of eagle rods, correct me if I'm wrong?
Also I was wondering why Forged Performance made the switch to Manley H-beam rods in their S1 blocks?
Eagle rods are rated @ 1500 hp (not sure if thats over rated?)
Manley rods are rated @ 600-800 hp depending on rod bolts.
Which one would you trust if you were building a 700+whp VQ engine?
Also I was wondering why Forged Performance made the switch to Manley H-beam rods in their S1 blocks?
Eagle rods are rated @ 1500 hp (not sure if thats over rated?)
Manley rods are rated @ 600-800 hp depending on rod bolts.
Which one would you trust if you were building a 700+whp VQ engine?
Last edited by Sharif@Forged; 11-02-2010 at 02:36 PM.
11-02-2010, 11:03 AM
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I thought str8dum1 was pushing close to 900 whp on Sharif's dyno. 900 whp on Sharif's DD dyno would be approximately 1200 SAE crank horsepower. And they survived the dyno. Just didn't last too long after... I guess that's still under the 1500 whp rating. Thanks for finding the limits of the Eagle rod, str8dum1! :d I guess I would go Carillo or Pauter next time around.
str8dum1, post up the dyno and the carnage in this thread! Also, aren't you concerned about the rotating mass since you want to go up to / past 8k rpms?
str8dum1, post up the dyno and the carnage in this thread! Also, aren't you concerned about the rotating mass since you want to go up to / past 8k rpms?
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11-02-2010, 01:49 PM
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didnt know that part ^^^^^ Im sure i wont ever be that high, but i am a fan on over building.. I would of guessed they would of taken more or at least that amount of power...
11-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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XKR's eagle rods never gave way that I heard and I think maybe I was confusing the new build with his old one - not sure what he got maxing out the 850s... str8dum1's gave way running at 898 whp DD! Or did you turn down the boost after that dyno run?
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11-02-2010, 02:58 PM
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^^^ agree,i know someone with eagle rods pushing 18 psi everyother day at just over 700whp....hes had a few things let go but never his rods.im thinking something else in contribution to the rods is what failed.im going the same route DD at 5-8psi 410ish-450ish whp and making my performance map 15psi should put me around 600whp
11-02-2010, 03:34 PM
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^^^ agree,i know someone with eagle rods pushing 18 psi everyother day at just over 700whp....hes had a few things let go but never his rods.im thinking something else in contribution to the rods is what failed.im going the same route DD at 5-8psi 410ish-450ish whp and making my performance map 15psi should put me around 600whp
which kit is making 600 whp at 15psi?
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