Ill leave it up to my fellow members as i think it sucks now.It seems to me that we have no new fresh ideas and all the noobs ask the same damn questions and are to lazy to search.

I just shared PM'S with RudeG and had to agree with all his answers...and he was right about everything...and i will not go into it here.

What do we have to do to liven up this once great part of the forum.

PS...remember i got rid of Lawchick for everyone so whats next

 

I am working on something here, just need a few more days. I will start a new thread when I'm ready. Nothing crazy, but better than nothing at all

 

You are the only thing new and i applaud you for that.

 

LOL yep. I won't go into all the details of my PM's with superchargedg. But what he stated in the OP has been one of the main reasons for my prolonged absence from the forums. Aside from LS swaps gaining some popularity, it seems that the VQ platform has become stagnant without much development or innovation this past year. There hasn't been much new or exciting to hold my interest in this forum. Hence my inactivity here over the past 6 months.

Other platforms seem to be more progressive with new products, technologies, and techniques. For instance, the new Borg Warner EFR series turbos are being discussed on other forums, but I don't see much buzz about them here.

I understand though that the sh*tty economy has been a big factor in why the VQ community has hit a plateau.

 

other platforms run single turbos that are easy to swap. we dont have that luxury., so obviously large turbos with built in BOVs wont fit without a ton of customization to a prefab kit like powerlab.

 

Capping or removing the BOV bung on a prefab kit isn't that big of a deal. IMO some customization to a BP or PowerLab single turbo kit seems like a small price to pay for a 50% lighter turbine wheel. It would be nice to see more members of the VQ community step away from the cookie cutter installs and so called "builds" in favor of customization and some fab work in efforts to create something unique and better. That has been one of the goals of my build project.

The Borg Warner EFR 6258 (one of their smaller EFR models) looks like it's worth some consideration and investigation as an option to modify an existing twin kit.

http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...258-turbo.html

The main issue I've noticed with the EFR series is that their selection of turbine housings is pretty limited thus far. They don't yet offer an undivided T4 housing, which I would want/need for my application.

 

people barely touch the full capabilities of greddy or other TT kits yet. there are build here that make 700 ftlb around 4500 rpms. with OTS builds like that, it makes looking at non-standard options tough to swallow.

but i 100% agree, i wish more options were explored. Its really tough trying to explore new options for 1000+ when theres like 5 other builds at that level.

 

This is very true. There isn't much motivation out there to make something "unique" because there are options already on the market that will satisfy 99% of the demand. For example, I could start tearing things apart and build a twin turbo top mount setup, but it would do the same thing as any other TT kit out there. The demand may not be there either, so it would not be a logical thing to do, other than show. People tend to lean towards (for the most part) kits that are easy to install/maintain and require the least amount of mods to the car.

There is also only so much you can do with the VQ as it is very tight in that engine bay. If the engine sat a bit lower, a twin screw/roots type blower would be an option and then you could twin charge. An eaton M90 combined with a T76 would be something else, but it's just not feasible without a ton of custom work.

 

I agree that the lack of intellectual posts by new owners and the amount of so called "build" threads has killed this forum.

Our community just never made the progression that you see on many other forums for different platforms. Even with things like E85, there are only a hand full of threads that have documentation of it's use (i.e. Blackbird).

 

Just out of curiosity when you folks are comparing the lack of FI innovation in the VQ community (and to be more specific the 350z community) to that of other communities, are these other communities that you speak of that of factory boosted cars?

 

Don't worry Keith, I will start my annual build thread soon.... followed shortly after by the car blowing up and me going dark for the rest of the year

 

Chris i hope for a good result this time as i would change engine builders this go around.

 

Well I just ordered my S1 shortblock... didn't want to start a thread because I know it has been done many times before

still I could use some insight from some of you guys..

should I make a thread?

 

I will do the same, I am almost scared to build another one my stock engine has been doing so well. I might pull the engine to change the waste gate actuators to 10psi and tune for about 500whp and enjoy the car for another season because although I had fun with it last year everytime I got on it hard I thought it might blow. Another build engine failure and I think the car would be parted out, I was looking at it last week thinking about weather I have the parts to go back to full stock or not, damn GTRs look so appealing.

 

I hope your working on a kit for the HR and the VHR motors that would be real nice.

 

which is another good point cuz if you read the vette FI or camaro FI boards, they are similar to ours. A few custom biulds, mostly bolt on "pre-built" kits.

 

what are you expecting?

dead of winter, down economy, holidays, a car that isn't made anymore and is not all that inexpensive to build properly - not too hard to figure out it's going to be a pretty dead time across the board

as for new turbos, they are just that...new. Doesn't mean they are the bees knees just yet

 

I'm more surprised that not everyone has switched to the 928 impeller upgrade for the vortech kit.
But yes the FI forum has declined. I remember reading in the FI threads before I could even drive, and in all the sites the post magnificence has declined. That has partially to do with the fact our cars aren't brand spanking new and everything was being pioneered, but also the posters are just lazy noobs not really contributing, just requesting info.

IMO until the prices of builds go down dramatically, or we find a cheap way to beef up the internals (somehow using affordable oem parts to swap in, which just ISN'T going to happen), there won't be any real breakthroughs. Or maybe if some shops come out with really affordable exhaust manifolds (the JIC [which I would consider should I decide custom one off tt kit], or the cast GTM ones both are over a grand).
I'm also fairly surprised there aren't a million built cars pushing more power, especially considering most people's builds and kits can support much more than they have (like you guys said, the greddy kit for example can make a s*** ton).
And we only have about 1 kit that uses billet turbos (Sound Performance). This makes me say what the hell? Especially considering how much people pay for most of the newer kits out there... (cough gtm)
Edit:
And don't forget the shitty fuel system we have. Small pump small lines, NO return. Yeah ford guys have the same problem, but their stock internals are sometimes even better than our aftermarket ones.

 

^^^Thats what i am talking about and not what Z1 perf is....thank you.Its just completely boring in here now....i guess i just miss the good old days.

 

why? I made 460DD on the stock SI impeller

My SFR kit uses twin 6262, but its basically the same as SP. Truth is the Powerlab gets a better deal on Garretts. They have no further interest in the VQ motor. The was obvious when the did their custom twin GT37 and 76s kits but would NEVER resell to anyone else regardless of cost. Belive me, i wanted the 76 kit before I went SFR. Intense/Powerlab just gave excuse after excuse.

We have more than enough fuel options to run well over 1500whp on E85. Anyone can sump their tank and run a big 800-1000 l/hr external pump. This platform was brought forth on check book innovation and not DIY, so there's very few people that wanna get their hands that dirty.

Like said, LS swaps are getting more available and sadly thats where the next steps will go.