Something being "hard" to do is relative. You obviously missed the point which is that it is generally easier to try these cheapo experiments and less time consuming on the cars you are trying to compare this to. Comparing a cheap turbo to a cheap turbo kit is not apples to apples.

And just because the Turbonetics install isn't "hard" doesn't mean you should put the cheapest pipe and $hittiest fitment possible on the car.

Obviously somebody who is buying a Godspeed kit doesn't have money (or brains), and they likely wont have knowledge or money to pay somebody to weld new pipes, or fix ill fitting flanges, or dfo whatever is needed to take a cheap kit into something respectable.

This community does have a bad habit of going overkill on parts/set-ups, but skimping on a turbo kit is a terrible idea any way you cut it.

 

What dust? I push it out of the garage, clean it, then push it back in.

 

missed the flaming,missed the banz, but...

in4acameoinanepicthreadforfuturesearchresultsonebaykits



aaaand now im out.

 

I have to disagree with this statement. All the stuff that I fixed up, and welded from other platforms for local members has been absolute crap. Exhaust manifolds, and exhaust in general are made out of .05” tubing instead of the industry standard .065”. I cannot tell you how many down pipes, test pipes, up pipes, and manifolds I have welded up for people that thought ebay piping will do the same thing as the more expensive stuff made here. The stuff is paper thin. Now you throw in a few heat cycles and the stuff turns in to glass.

One guy brought his FD turbo manifold over 3 times for fix ups, and now I built him a proper one that will never crack.

 

^ Would you build me manifolds instead of my pos GTM ones?

 

i buy everything off ebay. birth control pills, condoms (ONLY USED ONCE!!)

 

OP needs to be unbanned so he can buy my car.

I'll even swap out my GT35R for any ebay turbo of his choice!

 

Jeffie is a stand up guy but he is still a little ghey

 

exactly. GTM, APS, greddy all have long standing history of cracking manifolds. Yet they are the most commonly suggested kits.

inexpensive doesnt have to mean its junk, just like expensive doesnt mean that its good.

There's a 1 yr warranty as well. (but i'd still swap the wastegate)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/160651734845

 

I would need them here, so that I can build a jig. After that it is easy to duplicate

 

Heard your car is @ SP right now

Greddy's have long standing history of cracking? This is news to me. I've heard a couple of stories but not THAT much.

 

^One of my Greddy manifolds was cracked when I picked up the kit (used).

 

I think I agree. If ever there was a time for someone to try an eBay kit, this might be it. Remember, the OP's goals were soooo low! She said 300-350hp. At those levels, the reduced stress might let one of those cheaper kits hold together for a reasonable length of time. It sounds like she'll need to be ready for some fitment issues, and I agree that Cheapo Joes usually aren't in the best position to deal with that.
I think the video game analogy is unfair if you think of the OP wanting to play Call of Duty online. I think it's more like a Pac-Man situation and the requirements for that are a lot lower.

 

Am I going to be installing an ebay kit on your car in the near future?

 

Haha! No, but I see what you're saying. For one thing, I'd try to install it myself and I have no patience for things that don't fit together correctly. It sounds like cheaper kits are often plagued with fitment issues, and I am just not willing to deal with that.
I'm mainly agreeing with str8's concept that just because it's cheaper, doesn't guarantee that its failure is imminent. It PROBABLY means that the longevity of the components will not be as great, but I don't think it's fair to say that he won't make it to the dyno before something fails. Let's face it, your kit is cheaper than any kit I've seen with comparable components; yet, I don't think that it would be fair to call the reliability of Boosted Performance kits into question merely based on your price.
Like you've said before, "others have had limited success with eBay kits, but if you really want to give it a try, do it and post your results." (Or words to that effect.) My risk/reward tolerance is not suitable to buy the kit he's talking about, but his might be.
Similarly, lots of folks on here are big on "racing bike as first motorcycle = death." I agree that it's not the best course of action, but I won't say it's impossible.
Hey, maybe I'm making too big of a deal about their over generalizations anyway!

 

Do keep in mind that with the BP kit, there is no overhead, and there is no mark up by second/third parties. It is just a small operation. Now, if I had a welder working for me, a shipper/receiver, an accountant..ect. the price would have to be up there with the rest of the comparable ST kits on the market. and then you throw in the vendor mark up on top of all that.


I also don't have the buying power like some of the other manufactures, so that should also be taken in to consideration. The cost for parts on all these (tuner) ST kits including my, are in the $3000 range, maybe even lower.


All I can say is that most of my customers have already upgraded from the original base kit. Weather it is a bump in boost, built engines, BB turbos..ect. Luckly the turbo is sized properly and does allow easy upgrade. Heck, you can just upgrade the turbine housing from the standard .68 a/r to a .96 a/r on the 6265 T4, and make 600whp without any other changes/upgrades to the kit. That will only cost you $250. The people buying these ebay kits will do the same down the road, and probably sooner than later. Then you will see threads with titles like “ebay kit can’t make 400whp” because the turbine is too small, or all of my piping is cracked, and I am sick of taking it off for repairs.
When I started here, and set my goals to 350-370whp, everybody said that I will want more…and guess what..that is what happened.

I honestly don’t care what people spend their money on, as it does not affect me in any way. If I don't sell kits, I still have my day job, and life goes on. I am just saying what will happen in the near future as more and more people start buying these kits.